Your Arizona CCW Permit

[FurCoat]

Open carry here. Ruger 357 security special 6 with a six inch barrel. Not the best gun for CCW. Rock solid reliable, draw and fire, no jams to clear and nothing says you're f%#$ed like staring down the barrel of that hand cannon with those hollow points staring back at you.

 

[jeff540]

CCW in Virginia here was several years. I only carry when I am going way out in the field or travelling overnight by myself.

The only time I was really glad to have it was coming across a massive wild pig inside a farmhouse that had been abandoned since the 1960s.

 

[wyfbane]

Honestly, if a state doesn't have reciprocity with Missouri, I tend to avoid them... I'm looking at you Illinois.

I have found it rather easy to find reasons to give Illinois the side eye... lol

Back in WA it is constitutional open carry but it is unheard of. CCW are pretty easy to get, and the OR one was easy for WA residents to get, as well. Then folks from UT would come up and give a class and with that 3rd one, you were good for 40ish states or whatever.

Here in TN it is straight constitutional carry, concealed and all. Not in banks, etc, but so may places. People are polite here because so many people are packing. haha.

 

[Briar Lee]

For those who’d like to not be an accidental felon:

18 U.S. Code § 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms​

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearmshall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment thefirearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

(Added Pub. L. 99–360, § 1(a), July 8, 1986, 100 Stat. 766.)

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Now, leave your AR-15 or Uzi or Thompson or Tech Nine at home, and no over 10 shot magazines. The firearm has to be legal WHERE YOU ARE GOING, This is for Fudd guns.

The firearms have to be unloaded and locked in the trunk, or if no trunk a locked compartment or container NOT THE GLOVE BOX OR CONSOLE.

If you do that, you’re safe.

I print this out and put it by the guns.

When you tell the police you have guns in the trunk they might do a full search of you, your car, the whole works. They will not be friendly. They are not there to protect and serve you. You are from another state, and something has happened to cause the stop.

The idea is to keep on traveling. They might write you up for everything else they can, but you can leave.

Always be polite, yes sir, no sir, and never smell like you’ve had any weed or booze—-zero:

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

"Shall not be infringed"

Imagine going out and asking the government if you can carry a pistol.

 

[Briar Lee]

"Shall not be infringed"

Imagine going out and asking the government if you can carry a pistol.

50 million Americans come into contact with law enforcement each year through traffic accidents, stops, arrests, and house calls, according to data collected by the Law Enforcement Epidemiology Project at the University of Illinois Chicago School of Public Health. That means about one out of every seven Americans interact with police each year.

Of those 50 million civilian encounters with law enforcement each year, about one million “experience police threat of or use of force during these interactions,” according to the project, and an estimated 250,000 are injured. Those injuries can be serious — the researchers estimate that at least 75,000 people are hospitalized each year because of police force

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By far and away, overwhelmingly, your biggest risk of traveling is to be stopped by the police.

Your gun is worse than useless in such encounters, it can get you shot, tased, or handcuffed.

Andy of Mayberry is dead.

His successors are scared of you.

Never, ever, ever call the police if there is any other option.

In 41 years of law practice, not once did I hear anyone say, I called the police, they came right away, and they sure helped me.

 

[DesertDan]

Arizona has Constitutional Carry both open and concealed.
It is extremely rare for me to travel out of state, so I haven't renewed my permit since CC was established.

 

[Briar Lee]

Arizona has Constitutional Carry both open and concealed.
It is extremely rare for me to travel out of state, so I haven't renewed my permit since CC was established.

One of the problems of the recent trend to legalize concealed carry, is that an industry develops around the permits.

Arizona is the most liberal in supporting the permit industry, but here in Missouri if I have a permit it’s recognized in more states by reciprocity.

I let my permit lapse after Missouri adopted constitutional carry.

And I carried a Ruger LCP in my suit jacket until I realized the consequences of forgetting it and walking into a courthouse.

I do not blame the police for threatening violence and actually being violent to all those people.

If I had to deal with a public where Arizona mailed out concealed permits like jelly beans I’d be violent too.

 

[Hillcrest]

To my knowledge it is just handgun.

Ct's gun laws were originally copied from the 1939 Wermacht laws of Germany (Allegedly Sen Dodd's father wrote them) ... then got worse. But ... the state constitution says ...'shall issue' ... which they have been trying to change ever since ...

 

[HeavyLeadBelly]

PA has Constitutional Open Carry, which includes all legal firearms. Clients will sometimes grimace when I show up with an M4, but I know, down deep inside, they get the warm and fuzzies.

Only if your M4 is decked out in Hello Kitty regalia

 

[telescopes]

One of the problems of the recent trend to legalize concealed carry, is that an industry develops around the permits.

Arizona is the most liberal in supporting the permit industry, but here in Missouri if I have a permit it’s recognized in more states by reciprocity.

I let my permit lapse after Missouri adopted constitutional carry.

And I carried a Ruger LCP in my suit jacket until I realized the consequences of forgetting it and walking into a courthouse.

I do not blame the police for threatening violence and actually being violent to all those people.

If I had to deal with a public where Arizona mailed out concealed permits like jelly beans I’d be violent too.

You’ve got to be kidding? Arizona requires a background check, finger printing, and proof of a certified training course before they issue the permit. The permit allows a holder to then have access to insurance. It also insures a level of trading and knowledge about the laws. What does constitutional carry do? Nothing I terms of responsibility. I could go on. But jelly beans are a poor metaphor. .

 

[Briar Lee]

You’ve got to be kidding? Arizona requires a background check, finger printing, and proof of a certified training course before they issue the permit. The permit allows a holder to then have access to insurance. It also insures a level of trading and knowledge about the laws. What does constitutional carry do? Nothing I terms of responsibility. I could go on. But jelly beans are a poor metaphor. .

There used to be a thriving concealed carry industry in Missouri when you had to be 23, do a back ground check, and complete a rigorous in person class where you qualified with a centerfire handgun.

Today hardly anyone gets their permit after constitutional carry.

Here’s why

• Be at least 19 years old, or at least 18 and a member of the US armed forces
• Be a citizen or permanent resident of the United States
• Be a resident of Missouri
• Complete a state-approved firearms safety course
• • Apply for a permit at your local sheriff's office
  • Pay the required fee
  • Be fingerprinted

Why do that, when you don’t need to?

I went to college. The people who decided to allow all 19 year olds to carry concealed never went to any of the drunken parties I went to.

To make concealed carry great again in Missouri, what is really needed, is to allow a three day in person requirement.

And as part of that anyone who qualifies for our medical cannabis card and who visits a cannabis’s growing facility gets their weed card AND concealed carry card. There would be lots of doctors and concealed carry instruction classes and gun providers to help the nice folks who visited here.

They could visit Branson and Humansville and be all set.

It would help a lot of folks with disabilities and they could get religion at Branson.

(She is over fifty and from St Clair county)

 

[ssjones]

Arizona has Constitutional Carry both open and concealed.
It is extremely rare for me to travel out of state, so I haven't renewed my permit since CC was established.

As does Louisiana. Jesus and a Ruger LCP is a friend to me, when I travel to New Orleans.
I need to find somewhere to practice here, but I hate shooting paper. The nearest outdoor range is 50 miles away.

 

[dd57chevy]

If you carry , I would advise getting a permit , even where carrying is legal . God forbid you ever had to shoot someone and your county/district attorney came after you . A permit is another point your lawyer could use to persuade the jury .
I am from "common sense" Iowa , and yet shudder to think of some of the lemmings who might be on the jury ...........

 

[telescopes]

If you carry , I would advise getting a permit , even where carrying is legal . God forbid you ever had to shoot someone and your county/district attorney came after you . A permit is another point your lawyer could use to persuade the jury .
I am from "common sense" Iowa , and yet shudder to think of some of the lemmings who might be on the jury ...........

Yes, thank you adding that important point - and why it makes it easier to get carry insurance.

 

[anantaandroscoggin]

There seem to be a number of establishments which state open-carry laws still prohibit the carrying of a weapon. However, it seems that having a CCW reduces the number (reduces, not eliminates) of places you can not carry. In a number of states, anyway.

In the late '70s, I knew a guy whose first and only choice for off-duty carry was a .44 Auto Mag. He was only a bit larger than me (at that time in my life), and I regret never thinking to ask him what kind of rig he carried it in.

 

[Sobrbiker]

@telescopes, what exactly does AZ’s ccw permit give you that your CA ccw doesn’t?

Just curious, because being a resident of AZ, having had an AZ ccw, and having been a AZ DPS approved ccw training organization (prior to our Constitutional Carry laws), all I can think of beyond the reciprocity I enjoy, mine gives me a fast track on purchases. I didn’t think that this would apply to non-residents though (but I could be wrong).

 

[telescopes]

There seem to be a number of establishments which state open-carry laws still prohibit the carrying of a weapon. However, it seems that having a CCW reduces the number (reduces, not eliminates) of places you can not carry. In a number of states, anyway.

In the late '70s, I knew a guy whose first and only choice for off-duty carry was a .44 Auto Mag. He was only a bit larger than me (at that time in my life), and I regret never thinking to ask him what kind of rig he carried it in.

This is true. Unless prohibited by law, a sign simply saying no guns does not prevent CCW. A CCW allows extra protections in that you are bound by state law over city law (not always) and many cases allows you to carry into other states where you are not a resident. But primarily, it is one more aid for you in case you do have to use it. That is the bottom line of course. A gun is not a toy or a show piece. It is a weapon and a CCW is a proactive aid in demonstrating responsibility to a court if it is used when protecting yourself. I am not a gambler.

 

[telescopes]

@telescopes, what exactly does AZ’s ccw permit give you that your CA ccw doesn’t?

Just curious, because being a resident of AZ, having had an AZ ccw, and having been a AZ DPS approved ccw training organization (prior to our Constitutional Carry laws), all I can think of beyond the reciprocity I enjoy, mine gives me a fast track on purchases. I didn’t think that this would apply to non-residents though (but I could be wrong).

The CA permit is accepted by "some" states. The non resident AZ is accepted 32 states. I travel a lot and I don't care to worry about always needing to store my gun in a locked container. Insurance covers my CCW for California and California only with the CA CCW. With the AZ permit, it covers me in the additional 32 states. What we really need is a federal law that recognizes reciprocity in all 50 states. This is long overdue and I believe our Supreme Court would uphold such a law. Currently, the court's actions have made all 50 states shall issue. But as we know, some states have decided to complicate this. It is simply too complicated. CA doesn't recognize anyone else's CCW permit.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

I do not blame the police for threatening violence and actually being violent to all those people.

Which people are you referring to?
Ones who possess firearms inside a courthouse?