Sorry, there's a little bit of age discrimination in this thread, but how many members are of an age, and remembering actually riding in a smoking car on the train? My family used the Chicago and Northwestern railroad commuter line to get to and from downtown Chicago, and for many years, until the sixties probably, a smoking car was standard on the commuter runs. I even remember the old cars with velvet like upholstery and wood trim. Most of the riders read the newspaper as they smoked, but others had ongoing card games that went on for years. Cigarettes were standard; cigars not uncommon; and pipes were always represented. You could track styles of pipes over time. I remember the craze for Meerschaum lined leather wrapped pipes, often in the apple shape. It is something to remember while there are those who can.