What's This?!?! A Bullk Royal Yacht Match Offering?!?!

[JimInks]

Shutterbug: Sutliff does not make the Royal Yacht Match. I e-mailed and asked.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Jim, this link says it is... https://paylesscigarsandpipes.com/altadissutliff-match-royal-yacht-match-1-lb

But, it may be a mistake on this company's part. I've never heard of this company, Payless Cigars and Pipes.

 

[skraps]

Some of their prices are pretty amazing though. Many of their tin prices are several dollars less than the well known guys.

 

[JimInks]

Cosmic: I just e-mailed my contact and sent him the link.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Thanks Jim, maybe this whole thing is just a big mistake.

 

[condorlover1]

Royal Yuck by the pound. That is my idea of hell on earth. I could see it now. "Mr. Condor we are exiling you to a desert island with two Falcon pipes and fifteen pounds of Royal Yuck match blend!'. I'd rather spend a night in Tijuana getting buggered by a midget in a Snow White costume wearing a barbed wire condom with my nut sack stapled to the floor before I tried either that stuff or the match blend. :rofl:

 

[JimInks]

My contact at Sutliff said they don't make it. He said it's a possibility they used to make it, and he said he'd check the files to see if they ever did. I know that when I did my reviews of Sutliff Match blends in 2014, they were not making it, or I would have gotten it for review. As a great many of Sutliff's matches were close to the originals, if they had made it, it might have been close. Who knows? They've made many of the best Match blends on the market, despite what the snobby Sutliff slammers think.
Here's a link to my Match reviews.
http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/jims-sutliff-match-reviews

 

[snagstangl]

http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-tobacco-matches-at-payless-pipes
So how did no one else remember the prior thread that addressed this.

 

[JimInks]

Cosmic: my contact at Sutliff sez, "The only item I see we made close to that name was Royal Scott. I see a bunch of Royal – stuff like Royal Viking, but not Yacht." He did allow for the fact that perhaps it was made and sold under a another name.

 

[skraps]

Did Altadis get bought out by Sutliff?
How are they listing a tobacco with both the Altadis and Sutliff name on it and not getting shite for misrepresentation?

 

[JimInks]

Altadis used to own Sutliff. In 2013, MacBaren bought Sutliff from Altadis.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Thanks, that doesn't really quell any of the mystery of this. It especially doesn't make me want to buy something that may have sat around in a bulk bag for three or four years.

 

[shutterbugg]

They've made many of the best Match blends on the market, despite what the snobby Sutliff slammers think.

I find Sutliff's ERR match much closer* to the original than Lane's...which is really a reintroduction not a match, as Lane apparently owns the rights to the original recipe.
*I think it's due to the cut being closer to what I remember, which influences the smoking properties

 

[JimInks]

Shutterbug: it's more than that. The Sutliff Match has more molasses than the Lane version does, and is almost the same amount as the original ERR. The Lane version has more cocoa than the original ERR, and lacks that mild sharp note that the original and the Sutliff Match has. Lane said they used the original recipe, but having directly compared it to the original ERR, I taste enough differences to say Lane's is not the same. Sutliff also uses the correct cut, which Lane does not.

 

[deathmetal]

Recipes are made of words. Words are ambiguous.
http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl201/modules/Philosophers/Nietzsche/Truth_and_Lie_in_an_Extra-Moral_Sense.htm