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odobenus

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Folks, I'm here to come clean. I've never tried a straightahead VaPer. I tend to be a strictly Balkan/English smoker. If you could recommend one -- only one -- you feel is the best and most inviting representative of the blend, what would it be?

Escudo or something more local?

Thanks.

 

Chasing Embers

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Starting with lat blends is natural as they are stronger flavored and more forgiving on the tongue. Escudo, though not my favorite, is a popular choice, but I'll through Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake, and Mac Baren Acadian Perique out there.

 

olkofri

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Hearth & Home Anniversary Kake?
Reminds me, will a VaPer ghost a pipe so that it won't be suitable to smoke pure VA anymore?
I can never taste VAs in pipes where I've smoked other things.

 

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johnbarleycorn

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I will second the recommendation of PS Luxury Bullseye Flake. But my current favorite is Samuel Gawith St James Flake. I’m also pretty fond of BriarWorks Back Down South.

 

diamondback

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In my very humble opinion, I agree that P. Stokkebye’s Luxury Navy Flake and/or Comoy’s Cask no. 4 are very good places to start (both are also available in bulk). They love a soft light and a very slow cadence, as you probably well know. I’d say once you spend enough time to get to know the flavor, treat yourself to some Escudo!

 

diamondback

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Stonehenge is another favorite of mine.
I’ve yet to try Stonehenge. It’s been on my to-buy for quiet a while now, along with some of the Captain Earl blends... I’ve got a tin of the Ten Russians that I’ve yet to crack.
You sure didn’t steer me wrong with the Frigate. I’ve more in the mail as I type :D

 

kdfva

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Rattray Marlin Flake would be a good starting point for you in addition to the options above.

 

mtwaller

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If I had to pick one I’d say Stokkebye Luxury Navy Flake. It’s cheap, it’s smooth, it’s delicious, and you can fit a ton of those flakes in a mason jar.

 

jazz

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Now that Dunhill Navy Rolls have gone the way of the dodo my favourite is Solani 633 Virginia Flake with Perique. You can't get Escudo in the UK anymore and I have never tried it so I can't recommend it but I suspect it really is where you should start if it's as close to Dunhill's offering as most make out. St James' Flake by Samual Gawith is great stuff but wonder if it may be a bit fiddly to get to burn if you are used to English Mixtures.
Rattray Marlin Flake would be a good starting point for you in addition to the options above.
No, it wouldn't. It has black cavendish in it. It is delicious though.

 

cosmicfolklore

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Perique is such a subtle spice, mostly enhancing what the surrounding leaf brings to the table. It would be nearly impossible to imagine what a perique ghost would even be like. I even smoke straight perique at times, mostly when nothing else suits my mood. And, I smoke straight Virginias from the same pipes.
Escudo or something more local?

I'm curious as to what "something more local" means. What do you have access to?

 

odobenus

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Hey Cosmic, I just meant something produced wholly stateside, rather than grown/harvested/fermented here, shipped across the water to be blended/processed/packaged, and then shipped back over here.

 

sasquatch

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The new Sutliffe Va/Per Crumble Cake is not bad.
Dunhill Deluxe Navy Rolls if you find 'em (similar to Escudo).
Scottish Cake from Robert McConnell is delicious.
McClelland used to make some good ones but unless you are lucky at some unused B+M they are unavailable, but Beacon and Tudor Castle were both exceptional.

 

cosmicfolklore

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Drats... I was hoping to discover some new regional blend, ha ha.

It always interests me when we get pipesmokers from Brazil or some other far off interesting place, and they put down their local blends, wanting to try some of our "exotic" Escudos and such, when it is their local cheap pipe tobacco that they've seen on shelves their whole life that is truly the exotic stuff.

 

odobenus

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So true! Back in the late 90s I used to buy a mostly Brazilian 'Cristobal' blend from a B&M tobacconist and I've never seen or tasted anything quite like it since. In fact, I can find no other record of a tobacco by that name.

 
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