U.S. Department of Defense Regulations on Tobacco Sales Get Tough
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not sure why it wouldn't have applied to someone under 21 there already?
weird when they pass a law you thought had been on the books for years. You know something you just assume has been that way. I bet there is some of that legalesse that says it's more complicated then it sounds though.
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guess they are going to have to raise the age of consent to 21 also... if you aren't adult enough to drink or smoke why can you join the military? Bet they don't change that.
seriously and I just realized what's new on that. Vaping. Which isn't in most places restricted by age yet. That's the new part.
If you're old enough to go to war, you're definitely old enough to drink and smoke. Ah, but common sense isn't such a thing anymore.
Time was, even if the drinking age was 21 in a state, it was 18 for military members.
Because a 21 year old is more likely to think twice about very risky, highly questionable behavior, which could lead to a serious
It seems so many of these heavy handed laws are a reaction to vaping being so prevelant amongst younger people.
That’s exactly what’s brought all this on. And the questionable sellers of some vape fluids with unknown ingredients.
But you can still operate a 1 ton machine at high speeds at 16 right?
You can still have a political say at 18 right?
I'd say if you are mature enough to do those things AND serve in a military, you should be mature enough to purchase tobacco.
You can still have a political say at 18 right?
I'd say if you are mature enough to do those things AND serve in a military, you should be mature enough to purchase tobacco.
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Rites of passage have changed, and are changing, not always in understandable or explicable ways. I know various teenagers who actively resist learning to drive, much less getting a driver's license, my fondest wish at 16, such that I had to take the driving test three time, while various of my friends totaled their dads' new Pontiacs and so forth. Vehicles and insurance cost too much for the average young person's budget, even if they are over 21, and maybe the resentment becomes indifference. To me, driving was the declaration of independence.
I love it when someone brings up the "old enough to fight and die, old enough to smoke" canard. The military knows kids better than most. The fully understand children are not capable, as a rule, of making good decisions which is why they are provided full time sitters and live in dorms (barracks) until they prove, individually, they deserve some say in the decision making. Civilian kids are simply granted certain privedges at certain ages. In the military, one earns the ability to make decisions The military understands the basic immaturity of late teens and early twenties types. Granted, ages of majority are certainly arbitrary but, limits are for the lowest common denominator. More mature members earn freedoms faster than their less bright/tractable peers. That is the intention anyway.
The military easily and severely restricts smoking with regard to age, times, locations, etc. It has been that way for years. Somebody with more stripes and experience determined when one could smoke and where. It was totally prohibited the first three weeks of basic training in my time. And then the DI taught us how to smoke and not litter. I remember "field striping" fondly. Policing smoking areas wasn't a lot of fun either. Society tolerates slovenly behavior. The military? Not so much.
They, the military leadership want to reduce physical damage to property as such is expensive. The same as civilian building supers, landlords and others. Limiting the inconvenience to non-smokers is something the military finds useful and easy to implement. Friday Night Smokers in the NCO Club are mostly relegated to history and the memories of "the good old days." Just as the military was forced to lead the fight to integrate society, work forces, neighborhoods and schools it may be the logical leader to relegating smoking with regard to age appropriateness and such. By it's nature the military commitment to "control" lends itself to social restructuring. It is what they do best after all. Well, along with the noble goals of "killing others and breaking stuff."
Civilian and military smoking is generally perceived as "anti-social" behavior. Deal with it guys! We've reverted back to pre-WWI days with regard to tolerance in smoking. Well, can't smoke in the gaming halls and bars these days. That's a bit more severe than the so-called "good ol' days."
The military easily and severely restricts smoking with regard to age, times, locations, etc. It has been that way for years. Somebody with more stripes and experience determined when one could smoke and where. It was totally prohibited the first three weeks of basic training in my time. And then the DI taught us how to smoke and not litter. I remember "field striping" fondly. Policing smoking areas wasn't a lot of fun either. Society tolerates slovenly behavior. The military? Not so much.
They, the military leadership want to reduce physical damage to property as such is expensive. The same as civilian building supers, landlords and others. Limiting the inconvenience to non-smokers is something the military finds useful and easy to implement. Friday Night Smokers in the NCO Club are mostly relegated to history and the memories of "the good old days." Just as the military was forced to lead the fight to integrate society, work forces, neighborhoods and schools it may be the logical leader to relegating smoking with regard to age appropriateness and such. By it's nature the military commitment to "control" lends itself to social restructuring. It is what they do best after all. Well, along with the noble goals of "killing others and breaking stuff."
Civilian and military smoking is generally perceived as "anti-social" behavior. Deal with it guys! We've reverted back to pre-WWI days with regard to tolerance in smoking. Well, can't smoke in the gaming halls and bars these days. That's a bit more severe than the so-called "good ol' days."
That's already old for a powder/cabin boy, arr.
Nothing so dramatic. Had a few roommates for three years, lived in my first car for six months, and got my mortgage at 17.
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