There Appears To Be A New Law In The UK Regarding Loose Tobacco Sales.

[mawnansmiff]

I just wandered over to the website of Johnny's Tobacconist here in Cornwall and spotted this statement....

"Please also note: We’re unable to sell packs of loose tobacco that are larger than 100g in weight following advice about tobacco sales from Trading Standards."

I've no idea when that was first implemented but it certainly doesn't sound good.

Regards,

Jay.?

 

[BROBS]

I just wandered over to the website of Johnny's Tobacconist here in Cornwall and spotted this statement....

"Please also note: We’re unable to sell packs of loose tobacco that are larger than 100g in weight following advice about tobacco sales from Trading Standards."

I've no idea when that was first implemented but it certainly doesn't sound good.

Regards,

Jay.?

I thought you couldn't buy over 100g in a pouch or tin there for quite some time?
Although I've seen some places selling bulk but they may have been individually 50g packed.
seems like a technicality though as you could just buy 5, 100g packs.. correct?

 

[georged]

You know how to boil a frog, right?

 

[verporchting]

My overlord and master - er, I mean my dear and beloved employer from which all things good and righteous flow in a most excellent rain of benevolent grace - just announced all employees will be subject to an automatic nicotine use surcharge unless we agree to abstinence and regular blood tests.

So it just got more expensive by $30 per month and dear leader can kiss my ass.

These fuckers are frog boilers extraordinaire.

Meh, I’m gonna go smoke a pipe of Dunhill Ready Rubbed now and wish a raging incurable case of genital warts on a certain capitalist prig.

 

[mawnansmiff]

"You know how to boil a frog, right? "

Had to look that one up George!

Regards,

Jay.?

 

[BROBS]

You know how to boil a frog, right?

IN THE UK I'D CONSIDER IT 75-80% COOKED

 

[elnoblecigarro]

My overlord and master - er, I mean my dear and beloved employer from which all things good and righteous flow in a most excellent rain of benevolent grace - just announced all employees will be subject to an automatic nicotine use surcharge unless we agree to abstinence and regular blood tests.

So it just got more expensive by $30 per month and dear leader can kiss my ass.

These fuckers are frog boilers extraordinaire.

Meh, I’m gonna go smoke a pipe of Dunhill Ready Rubbed now and wish a raging incurable case of genital warts on a certain capitalist prig.

Is this serious? I don't know where you live but how can this be legal? What happens if you refuse the bloodtests and refuse to pay the fee? Do all nonsmokers have to take bloodtests regularly?

 

[BROBS]

Is this serious? I don't know where you live but how can this be legal? What happens if you refuse the bloodtests and refuse to pay the fee? Do all nonsmokers have to take bloodtests regularly?

it's called voluntary employment.. you'd be fired.
an employer can make you do basically whatever they want.

if they told you that you must tape your ballsack to your leg every day before entering the office, and you didn't.. you could be fired.

 

[elnoblecigarro]

it's called voluntary employment.. you'd be fired.
an employer can make you do basically whatever they want.

if they told you that you must tape your ballsack to your leg every day before entering the office, and you didn't.. you could be fired.

That's in USA? I couldn't imagine this was possible here in Finland or in any country with unions and social benefits. Workers are generally heavily unionized here and social benefits somewhat extensive (shouldn't go homeless or starve to death at least without a job).

I know there are smokeless workplaces where you can't smoke on employer's time or premises, but I imagine nicotine bloodtest would forbid smoking on free time too, because of the long lasting metabolites... Some employers do hire on the condition that pisstest must be taken if one must operate heavy machinery but they test for illegal narcotics and such.

What's next, brain scans to check if your thoughts align with corporate policies?

 

[georged]

IN THE UK I'D CONSIDER IT 75-80% COOKED

100%, actually.

The frog just hasn't tried to jump out of the pot, yet, so doesn't realize it.

 

[timelord]

Years ago my employer - a UK company - won a significant contract with a large US financial services company. There were a couple of stumbling blocks in the contract finalisation:

1. As a European company we were required to include an anti-bribery statement in the contract (basically saying we wouldn't try and bribe or accept bribes from their employees) - for some reason their lawyers took exception to this but in the end let it stand as without it we couldn't sign the contract;

2. They insisted we incorporate their policy on random testing drug and alcohol testing of employees. In the end we accepted this in the contract and added it to our employment contracts. Having done this and got the contract signed we all went down the pub for the afternoon to celebrate. As far as I know no such tests were ever carried out.

 

[BROBS]

That's in USA? I couldn't imagine this was possible here in Finland or in any country with unions and social benefits. Workers are generally heavily unionized here and social benefits somewhat extensive (shouldn't go homeless or starve to death at least without a job).

I know there are smokeless workplaces where you can't smoke on employer's time or premises, but I imagine nicotine bloodtest would forbid smoking on free time too, because of the long lasting metabolites... Some employers do hire on the condition that pisstest must be taken if one must operate heavy machinery but they test for illegal narcotics and such.

What's next, brain scans to check if your thoughts align with corporate policies?

Yep probably.
same as testing for legal drugs and denying employment. They do that too.

Wanna see something crazy? look up Japan’s waistline law.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Nicotine is not an illegal substance, so there's no legitimate grounds to execute the above-mentioned tests, I'd simply refuse, nicotine use in any form is not base for termination of any employment relationships, at lest here

 

[lawdawg]

My overlord and master - er, I mean my dear and beloved employer from which all things good and righteous flow in a most excellent rain of benevolent grace - just announced all employees will be subject to an automatic nicotine use surcharge unless we agree to abstinence and regular blood tests.

So it just got more expensive by $30 per month and dear leader can kiss my ass.

These fuckers are frog boilers extraordinaire.

Meh, I’m gonna go smoke a pipe of Dunhill Ready Rubbed now and wish a raging incurable case of genital warts on a certain capitalist prig.

I work for a small business, am not an owner, but have some substantial profit sharing rights. Basically, it feels much like being self-employed. I'm constantly on the hook trying to get things done for clients, and it's hard to actually get away long enough to take a vacation, but then I remember the days of corporate BS and remember why I came here in the first place (not that I really forgot) and feel a powerful sense of freedom for never having to deal with that crap again.

 

[LOREN]

"What's next, brain scans to check if your thoughts align with corporate policies?"

Don't say that too loud. I'm afraid that's on our horizon.

 

[georged]

The "Karen Personality" has always been around.

The enormous (and ever-growing) trove of personal information---and the behavior(s) that can be inferred from it---provided by Social Media has put the world's Karens into a state of non-stop orgasmic bliss.

All they have to do, you see, is put themselves into positions of legal authority. That's usually done at the lowest level first, like homeowner's associations and city councils. Then the most vicious and motivated work their way upward until no one can deny their demands.

The coming years will be nothing if not entertaining. Waistline laws and similar are just the beginning. lol

 

[BROBS]

Nicotine is not an illegal substance, so there's no legitimate grounds to execute the above-mentioned tests, I'd simply refuse, nicotine use in any form is not base for termination of any employment relationships, at lest here

Here a company could take cholesterol tests and deny anyone above a certain level if they so desired.
There is little protection for a worker in the US unless a member of a powerful union.

 

[Casual]

Mr. Trudeau has instructed me to say that we are not in boiling water at all. The water just looks like it is boiling because it is very excited about our future together as global citizens.

 

[LOREN]

With DNA mapping and the ability of computers to store and cross-check massive amounts of data, I'm afraid people's health data will become something big corporate will use to deny insurance, employment and who knows what else.

 

[BROBS]

With DNA mapping and the ability of computers to store and cross-check massive amounts of data, I'm afraid people's health data will become something big corporate will use to deny insurance, employment and who knows what else.

however here in the US .. the HIPAA laws are pretty strong so I'm not sure that will happen anytime soon.
They can however require whatever private testing they want.