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locopony

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SSRIs, or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, are the pharmaceutical companies latest cash cows. Their use has skyrocketed in the last ten years. Nicknamed "Chemical Babysitters" and designated anti depressants, they are causing dozens of murders, thousands of psychoses and are altering the minds of millions of users. All but a very few of the latest "Mass Murderers" have been on these drugs. Schools encourage parents to put their children on these drugs for the smallest signs of "non conformity". Schools receive more money for "disabled" students.
Here is one of the most informative articles on SSRIs I've found by Dr. Julian Whitaker MD:
The Scourge of Prozac
When I first heard about the Columbine High School massacre, my initial thought was, "Lord help us, were they taking Prozac?" Nine days later, it was reported that Eric Harris, one of the shooters, was taking Luvox, which, like Prozac, Zoloft and Paxil, belongs to the class of drugs known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). In one out of every 25 children taking it, Luvox causes mania, "a psychosis characterized by exalted feelings, delusions of grandeur…and overproduction of ideas."
Guns Are Blamed, but What About Prescription Drugs?

Likely due to pressure from the pharmaceutical industry-heavy advertisers in all media-the national debate on the epidemic of teen violence has ignored the widespread use of prescription drugs in teens and particularly those who have committed monstrous acts. However, the drug-violence link is frighteningly common. Fifteen-year-old Shawn Cooper of Notus, Idaho, fired a shotgun at students and school staff. According to his stepfather, he had been taking an SSRI. Thirteen-year-old Chris Fetters of Iowa killed her favorite aunt. She was taking Prozac. Kip Kinkel, a 15-year-old youth, went on a rampage in Oregon. He first shot and killed his parents, spent the night with the bodies (characteristic of the dissociative reaction these drugs often cause), then killed two and wounded 22 of his fellow students at Thurston High School. He was taking Prozac.
SSRI Drugs Can Turn People Into Monsters

Look, folks, these are the acts of monsters. The accessibility of guns and violent movies alone does not create monsters out of children. But prescription drugs that markedly alter brain chemistry can-and do! Particularly drugs like Prozac, which are, in my opinion, the chemical equivalent of a ghoulish Stephen King monster hiding in the closet. A few people have tried to warn the neighborhood, but no one is listening. And SSRIs don't backfire in children only. In November 1991, 66-year-old Barbara Mortenson attacked her 81-year-old mother, biting her more than 20 times and leaving chunks of flesh strewn on the floor. Barbara had been taking Prozac for the previous two weeks. Kristine Marie Cushing, age 39, had been separated from her husband for several months. In October 1991, she took a .38-caliber pistol and shot and killed both of her children, Elizabeth age 8, and Stephanie Marie, age 4, while they lay sleeping in their beds, then shot herself, inflicting a non-fatal wound. Prosecutors stated that they "couldn't find one iota of information to show that she was anything but a very giving, caring and sweet human being." After a plea of insanity, she was committed to a mental institution. What made her snap? She had been taking Prozac. Ann Blake Tracy, Ph.D., author of Prozac: Panacea or Pandora?, has been studying the violent, dark side of SSRI drugs for ten years. She has researched 32 murder/suicides that involved women and their children. By interviewing their families and studying autopsy reports, news accounts and medical histories, she has determined that in 24 of these 32 cases, the women were taking Prozac or another SSRI.
These Drugs Alter Normal Brain Function

The explosive nature of these drugs is predictable. Studies show that they can cause a condition known as akathisia. Akathisia comes from the Greek word meaning "can't sit still," and refers to significant physical and mental agitation. Akathisia is to violence what a match is to gasoline. This condition has been reported in one out of 16 Prozac users, but its incidence is likely under-reported because Prozac also produces mania, hypomania, anxiety and restlessness, which are first cousins of akathisia. The defenders of Prozac say that millions are being helped by it, but this claim is spurious. In the clinical trials submitted to the FDA for registration, Eli Lilly studied the drug in less than 300 people and for only four or six weeks. However, one out of every seven participants dropped out of the study because of side effects of the drug. In fact, in a recent evaluation of the usage of Prozac and other SSRIs, it was found that nearly 70% of those who are prescribed the drug do not take it as prescribed, probably due to its undesirable side effects. Imagine that, for a drug touted to make people feel better! Furthermore, there are no studies demonstrating that taking any antidepressant prevents suicide or violent behavior. In fact, according to Peter Breggin, M.D., author of Your Drug May Be Your Problem, "there is substantial evidence that many classes of psychiatric drugs-including antidepressants, such as SSRIs-can cause or exacerbate depression, suicide, paranoia and violence." Did you know that one out of every 12 patients (and this figure, too, is likely under-reported) admitted to mental hospitals for psychosis is taking SSRIs?
Even the Bright Side of SSRIs Is Dark

As Dr. Breggin points out in his earlier book, Talking Back to Prozac, these drugs rob people of their humanity-they lose their capacity for empathy. "A lot of what we are seeing is individuals losing their feeling for the people in their lives. They stop caring about their husbands or wives or children. They stop caring about God." Though zombie-like numbness may initially be felt to be an improvement by someone with depression, it can hardly be considered healthy, or even desirable. It is this loss of empathy in my opinion, that allowed Kip Kinkel to kill both of his parents, then spend the night in the same room before heading out to shoot his classmates in Oregon. It is precisely why Eric Harris could wander around shooting his classmates in Columbine High School, even kids he liked, and laugh about it. It's beyond my comprehension how any doctor could knowingly prescribe a drug that may generate violence and numb the individual to its consequences!

 

locopony

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Like all things there are the necessary uses. I think the point of the article is the highly irresponsible prescribing to just every child who has trouble adjusting.
I'm very sure that for those that are properly diagnosed and treated there is very little danger. On the other hand you have those who just prescribe the stuff to make it easier to handle a child who needs some extra care.

 

wnghanglow

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A few quick thoughts, I hope not to offend anyone but this subject does hit close to home and I want to explain a few things. Anti depressants react very differently depending on the individual. The reason can be genetics down to something as simple as how much breads you eat. There is no way to actually test which receptors in the brain are over or under active without actually just trying a pill and seeing if it works. The next problem comes from not enough patient-doctor time after the pill is prescribed. For the full effect of an antidepressant to take effect you need to wait 6 weeks, or more depending on the person. The third problem is the patients do not take the drugs as prescribed. When a patient "feels" like they don't need the drug anymore they will stop taking the drug, the problem with this is when your taking a drug that alters your thought process you are the worst judge of when you need to or don't need to take your drug, and the withdrawal can cause more problems than not.
All of this may sound like I am against ssri's and I want to make it clear I am not, there are risks but there are also rewards. Like anything you do in medicine you should inform yourself, and make sure to be compliant with your doctor. SSRI'S are not a dirty word, and I don't believe anyone should be ashamed or afraid of taking them.
As for the OP's remarks such as it makes you act out in rage and ssri's caused the mass shootings, I would like to point out those statements are conjecture, not fact and not proven in any study.

 

northernneil

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This is a very tricky subject, as has been stated, there are people who rely on these kind of perscriptions. That being said, there are those doctors and individules who use these perscriptions as a skape goat. The example I have always used had to do with a friend of mine in high school. He was very hyper active and ADD when it came to schooling. He was perscribed dexidrine, which had a big benifit to his ability to concentrate in class. However, when it came to drumming, his passion, he was unable to concentrate on the task. Basically, in boring classes, the drug helped him concentrate. But, when it came to activities he liked, the drug hindered him. Was this perscription necessary, or could there have been another way to help him learn? As I said, when he was passionate about something, concentration was not a problem. When he was not interested in something, his ADD started acting up. Where does the responsibility lie? With the doctors? With the parents? With the schools? With the individules?

 

locopony

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I just dont think the risks have been portrayed properly.

I am sure that the right drug for treating a person has very little risk, but when the wrong drug prescribed or a drug at all when a drug is not needed is very dangerous. There is no reason that the use of these drug should have increased by ten fold. That is over prescribing and I would go as far as to say irresponsible and borderline malpractice.

 

brian64

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IMO, the most important issue/question regarding SSRI drugs is the ever increasing prescribing of them to children...and all of the associated controversy/ramifications. The below video segment addresses the issue of children specifically. Toward the end, they do assert the connection between childhood use of these drugs and violence. Regardless of what one thinks of the veracity of this particular point, the information they cover here has been addressed by many other credible sources as well...and IMO, there needs to be much more public awareness and debate about these things.
Generation Rx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpeHJ2wEPzk

 

tarak

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Yeah this is a far more complicated subject than its being proposed to be. I'm a nurse, and while I certainly think we overprescribe certain drugs, like SSRIs, anti-lipemics, PPIs and H2 Blockers, I struggle when people armchair quarterback the medical community.
Medicine, psychiatric health, and behavior are far more complex than to just make a direction association between SSRI use and violence.
There's a good chance that a large population of men who have affairs are on anti-reflex drugs (due to its prevalent use), but I'd hardly blame them for divorce rates.

 
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