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samon

Starting to Get Obsessed
Aug 23, 2015
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I'm going to email a few tobacco suppliers here in the UK to see if they havbe cotton boll twist. I doub they will and I also doubt they can order some in. But.. we'll see.
And I will of course report back once I smoke a few bowls with my hearty man bear pig laugh at how manly I am and how I barely puked or even died twice.
You'll see, you'll allll see.
I'll get some Pete's Paddy flake next time I do an order too, just because I know I'll be immune. mohahahaha

 
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I think that the brown American twist chewing baccies are overhyped,

sure, they're strong,

but generally unpleasant for straight smoking (for me at least) as I think they're overly harsh and totally unrefined, almost raw and not meant to be put inna pipe anyways!

:laughat:

........ :puffy:
I much prefer Irish plugs as they are stout, yet extremely flavorful and very smooth.
This is a fun thread to read:

http://snuffhouse.com/discussion/3490/my-first-twist-tobacco-experience
Favorite quote:

How well do those US plugs work as pipe tobacco?

I regularly smoke Kendal Plug and Mick McQuaid Plug in a pipe,

so I was just wondering.

i couldn't tell you.
they taste like shit though.
like mould and molasses.
:lol:

 

cosmicfolklore

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I believe that Cotton Boll only comes out of Kentucky. It's a small operation. I can't even get it in Alabama. I think it has killed or maimed some folks here, at best it most likely just made someone climb a flagpole and jump. You'll probably have to get someone from Kentucky to send you some. That's what I did. I only have a very limited amount, or else I would send you some pronto. It's more rare than Penzance.

 

cosmicfolklore

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I didn't see mlc's post before I posted. But, I suggest Rusticas be smoked in a larger diameter pipe very slowly. They are full bodied, like a very stout cigar. Not smooth, but it can be pleasant if you like full bodied. And yes, it does overdose me in nicotine, but it is great right before bed.

 
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"Not meant to be put in a pipe?"

Chewing tobaccos like this came about from miners chewing their pipe tobacco. I would say that it wasn't really meant to be chewed. :wink:
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I guess I gotta agree,

'cuz Wikipedia sez so too! :eek:

"Historically, twists could also be smoked in a pipe, or ground up into nasal snuff."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_tobacco#Twist
I still think it's pretty cruddy though,

especially since there are so many better options available.
I think that in many cases a pipesmoker who desires to be hypermasculine just smokes it to add a notch in his belt,
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and just to say that he can withstand the massive rustic rush.
Hemingway was a chump.
I'm not inclined to such torture of my sophisticated palate. :wink:
But I am still mainly manly.

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cosmicfolklore

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Let's settle it with armwrestling mlc. Ha ha! My bravado in this thread was to meet the tone of the OP. However, there are women out there that can drink and smoke most men under the table. I'm not sure how stronger stuff make one more manly. But, if you'd prefer we could have a knitting contest to see who's right, ha ha!
Nah, I'd agree, it's an acquired taste.
Wait! Don't be knocking Hemingway. Grrrr, he singlehandedly took on Nazi subs in the Gulf. Papa was the Man!!

 
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Wait! Don't be knocking Hemingway. Grrrr, he singlehandedly took on Nazi subs in the Gulf. Papa was the Man!!
I jest, I jest.

:P

I like the old dude,

Ernie certainly was a real writer at least.
He's just an easy target to personify an extreme machismo because he's a sort of cultural code-hero for it.
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There are only three tobaccos:

full, strong, and robust;

all the rest are merely bubblegum.


:mrgreen:
Here is a rich, multilayered, and provocative contribution to a difficult discussion:
Hemingway bisects the crisis of middle-class masculinity at many points in his personal and public life. The author’s many physical attacks upon friends who question his masculinity; the threats leveled at innocent passersby whom Hemingway perceived as “fairies”; his practically manic desire to hunt and kill as many animals as possible; his incessant need to experiment sexually—all of these indicate a symptomatology of angst that Hemingway shared with his fellow middle-class men. Developing such a critique, however, cannot definitively quantify anything about Hemingway; instead, we should search for examples of the middle-class struggle for a masculine identity in the author’s fiction. Finding examples of a crisis in middle-class masculinity in the author’s texts indicates a more readily quantifiable cultural determination at work upon both the author and his fiction. Turning to Hemingway’s short fiction, we see in many tales the same middle-class themes prevalent in the larger culture.
Hemingway's "dual masculinity," may mean Hemingway's ability to explore vulnerability and empathy in his work and life while also "preserving and reinforcing traditionally stoic masculine values", which identifies evidence of this "dual masculinity" in a variety of inconsistencies that have notoriously irked Hemingway scholars, most notably, Hemingway's awe and respect for women, which coexists with his misogyny, and his fascination with sodomy, which coexists with his homophobia.
Excerpted from:

Hemingway’s Short Fiction and the Crisis of Middle-Class Masculinity

 

tennsmoker

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Jul 2, 2010
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I love when we get into these macho tobacco talks.

Upfront, I’m a nic wuss. I haven’t always been a nic pansy, but I am now and I’m not sure what changed or how. My ability to endure Lady N has faded away.

There was a time when I could and would smoke anything from raw leaf to your strongest XXX twisted sister. Once, I smoked a pound a week and several cigars a day.

Now, Jackknife plug puts me on one knee for the eight count. 1792 gave me an out-of-body experience. I refuse to smoke 5 Brothers for fear of projectile vomiting.

I suppose I’m in that geezer phase in which my abused system can no longer hold up to the onslaught.

Give me the less stout, the stuff you guys would not even think of wasting a match upon.

Remember, not too long ago, I was in your shoes. Soon enough, you will be in mine.

I’m just sayin’.

 

cosmicfolklore

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Eh Tennessee, I'm standing in the doorway of geezerdom. I smoke straight Virginias mostly, very low nicotine? But, a bowl of the stout just before bed helps me sleep sound and effortless. The last thing I would want, manly or not, is to have a nicotine buzz while trying to solder tiny things together or drive. And, I'm not sure I would want to smell like the Rusticas smoke of Cotton Boll all day. I am already starting to get worried about old man smells. :puffy:

 

skraps

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 9, 2015
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But, a bowl of the stout just before bed helps me sleep sound and effortless.
I'm always amazed when I hear this. I have a pretty good tolerance for nic, being a once heavy cig smoker and now enjoying a few a day. I lean toward middle of the road stout blends, like Royal Yacht, 3 Friars, etc. and enjoy my Irish & Brit plugs occasionally.
But... give me too much nic right before bed, and I'm laying there like a hopped up meth addict. 8O

 

beastinview

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 5, 2016
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I think some people just naturally have a higher resistance. I'm a new smoker, and have smoked quite a few cigars and pipe tobacco in the last few months. I haven't ever had a cigar give me a nicotine buzz. The only thing that made my head spin was a bowl of 5 bros. back to back with a bowl of Peterson Irish Flake. Strong stuff.
I think Irish Flake is stronger. 5 Bros seems to get some of its strength from how quickly it burns.
So I do have a similar experience to the original poster, but I have seen friends who have vomited from a mild cigar, so everyone is different. It doesn't necessarily seem to correlate with machismo in other areas. It is what it is--nicotine tolerance.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
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Nic tolerance, yes. I don't have much, and when I first resumed the pipe, I had enough unpleasant experiences so that I moderated what and how I smoked. I used to smoke close to two packs of Camels or Luckies, no nic kickback, but that was 40 years ago. I won't touch cigarettes unless Charlize Theron hands me a lit one after sex. In other words, a bit unlikely.... :!: 8)

 

coffinmaker

Can't Leave
Jan 20, 2016
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I knew of an old geezer in Winchester, Va. when I use about 18 years old. He chewed tobacco, after he finished the chew, hours later, he would lay his chew on a fence post behind our barn. The next day after making hay and having dinner (noon time meal), he would break up some of this dried chew and fill his pipe. Smoking and smiling. If I was downwind it smelled so bad I would check my shoes to make sure I did step in something. I also chew tobacco, Red Man, I dried mine and stuff it in a new corn cob I bought at The A&P store. I lit that baby up --- There was a time warp I couldn't get out of. I'm very surprised death didn't find me. I puked for a long spell, had a headache, I think still. Most horrible sick feeling ever!

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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I once smoked a fresh Opus X right off the rollers table for breakfast and survived. That was the strongest thing I have ever smoked, including pipe tobacco.
Now I can smoke any strong blend like Irish Flake but only with food in my stomach, but most of my cellar is mild to medium strength as I go for flavor not nicotine. I have tried the SG ropes and yes they were strong but I did not cellar any as the taste was not to my liking.

 

hierophant

Lifer
Jul 27, 2014
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Nicotine hit is kind of a personal thing what knocks one person for a loop will be no big deal to someone else.
That said, the one blend I've tried so far that I found to be overhyped in terms of nicotine strength was Peterson's Irish Flake. I held off on trying it for a long time because I figured I'd end up in the hospital after half a bowl, but nope.

 
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