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Capt Faramir

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I am just under a year in to pipe smoking. Over that time I have tried many blends and have jarred quite of bit as I am learning what I like best.
Question: when you return to or open some tobacco that has been cellared for a few years, how much time do you then have to smoke that specific jar/tin? Does the benefits of the aging start to dwindle once opened?
 
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Some day very, very old tobacco needs to be smoked promptly after opening. In my limited experience, not the case but I don't have dozens of experiences so I can't say more. I can speak with significant expertise on tobacco aged 4 to 10 years. I've seen no issues in taking your time smoking it. In fact, most often, I open a tin and let it breathe for 2 to 3 weeks before smoking any.
 
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I had a 10 year old jar of kajun kake. It was awesome for over a year after I opened it. I only smoked it every now and then. Then one day it just went weird. I broke it out to share with a few friends, and everyone had the same reaction. It went from spicy and fruity, and sweet, and tangy, to bitter, acrid and harsh. I still don't know what happened.
 
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Scottmi

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I'm just a couple years into 'really' smoking a pipe after 30+ years of pretending to every now and then. I've also been sampling WIDE across many blenders and bends. I've found that several tins I didn't really care for on first opening, really came alive for me after being jarred for 6 months. Also easily noticed many blends changing from first opening to several weeks later...always to the better.
For some well aged tins i've come across that were amazing on opening, they are still great months later (put in jars). If you love it an smoke it all up in short order, no problem. If you want to pace it and stretch it over more time, don't worry..just jar it and keep coming back. There is so much great 'baccy out there still... when you find some that spins your dials, get more if you can!
 
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Chasing Embers

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Aging is just a consequence of volume with my cellar. I bought to have tobacco when I could no longer justify the price and now retired, I've arrived at that point. Some of my jars date back to the mid nineties but all of my cellar is fair game depending on what I want to smoke. Once a jar or tin is open though I often finish it or a couple of them before going for another.
 

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I am just under a year in to pipe smoking. Over that time I have tried many blends and have jarred quite of bit as I am learning what I like best.
Question: when you return to or open some tobacco that has been cellared for a few years, how much time do you then have to smoke that specific jar/tin? Does the benefits of the aging start to dwindle once opened?
Well, it kind of depends. All tobacco has a lifespan. It peaks, and fades.

I've had various experiences with tobaccos cellared for a wide range of times. Tobaccos that have been cellared for 30 years and longer are best enjoyed quickly when opened. They might already be faded, they might have turned into zombie vomit, but if not, those glorious flavors aren't likely to last longer than a day or two. Then, they swoon from the fresh oxygen and croak out.

10 to 20 years the tobaccos I've opened have been fine--assuming that they haven't gone strange-- at least for the few weeks that I'll be consuming them.

Under 10 years the tobacco should be fine to enjoy for as long as you're likely to be enjoying it, even if it's a matter of a couple of months.

There are, naturally, a lot of variables. Latakia tends to fade, "soften" a little bit by 10 years, and may become almost undetectable after 25 years.

But some of that is affected by the conditions under which the tobacco was stored. That's the great unknown when you're buying vintage tobaccos in the aftermarket. Some of it may have been stored in a stable environment and some may have been cooking away, or freezing, in someone's garage.

The quality of the packaging plays a role. The old cuttertops created a sealed environment, and if stored in optimal conditions, could yield a primo result. But cuttertops haven't been around for almost 50 or more years.

Round tins with screw down lids tend to hold their seal better over the years than square and rectangular metal tins, because the pressure of the seal is more evenly distributed in a circle than in a square or rectangle, and those square and rectangular tins are sealed with a gasket, not a permanent solution. After all, they were only intended to last a few years, not decades.

As for the "benefits" of aging, opening a jar interrupts whatever processes are happening, and after the jar is resealed, the process resumes after a while. But, nobody knows just how the flavors are altered by intermittent opening of the jar, versus, not opening it until you're ready to consume the contents.

Also, aging tobaccos doesn't "improve" them. Tobaccos change, more or less, during aging. Whether that change is an improvement is for the individual smoker to decide.

Recently, I had the unhappy experience of opening some tins and plastic trays of one of my favorite blends, St Bruno. These were all Mac Baren products from 2016. They were all dead as a dodo. The base tobaccos were "OK", but the toppings were gone. This never happened with the Ogden's product.

Shit happens.
 
My experiences are more in line with Hoosierpipe. 4 to 10 years and the tobacco holds up well. But, for this reason, I only use the half pint jars for aging tobaccos, so that when I open it, i can enjoy what is in that amount stress free. I can burn through a jar in about a week. However, once the cells in the leaf start breaking down and the essential oils of the leaf start to dissipate, usually around 20 or so years, depending on the leaf used... you had better smoke that quickly, or it just turns to shit.