Savinelli Bowl Coating

[damacene]

I haven't bought a savinelli in a few years and decided to purchase a new 622 Roman Lucite. For it's inaugural smoke I loaded up some Peretti Original Mixture and half way through the bowl I got this horrific burning chemical taste. I initially thought it may have been the blend, which I smoke all the time and has a lakelandish topping to it. I tried another blend and again got that horrible taste. Has savinelli changed anything in their production or did I get a black market ripoff savinelli?

 

[didimauw]

I'll be watching this.

The only 3 Savinellis I bought were Punto Oro, with no bowl coating. But I've been thinking about getting another less expensive one.

 

[damacene]

Update: I got a replacement pipe sent to me and midway through the bowl, same burning chemical taste. I am convinced this is the bowl coating savinelli is using now. I assume this is new production because both pipes came with a proper pipe sock rather than the paper sleeve Savinelli's used to come with. I'm contemplating either sending both back and buying another brand I've had better luck with...or seeing I can just smoke through it and get rid of that awful taste.

 

[crazyhog]

Update: I got a replacement pipe sent to me and midway through the bowl, same burning chemical taste. I am convinced this is the bowl coating savinelli is using now. I assume this is new production because both pipes came with a proper pipe sock rather than the paper sleeve Savinelli's used to come with. I'm contemplating either sending both back and buying another brand I've had better luck with...or seeing I can just smoke through it and get rid of that awful taste.

Are you speaking of the carbon coating or a stain in the chamber? I have one Savinelli with a carbon coating, but I haven't smoked out of yet.

 

[Roach1]

Wash the coating out and lightly sand if necessary. The coat lightly with honey ans smoke away. That what I would do.I personally have had no problems with Savs but once had this happen with a Pete.

 

[damacene]

Are you speaking of the carbon coating or a stain in the chamber? I have one Savinelli with a carbon coating, but I haven't smoked out of yet.

I'm not sure. Honestly it would make more sense if it was stain in the chamber rather than the carbon coating itself. Never experienced this before with any other pipe I've purchased.

 

[crazyhog]

I'm not sure. Honestly it would make more sense if it was stain in the chamber rather than the carbon coating itself. Never experienced this before with any other pipe I've purchased.

Have you tried a different tobacco?

 

[Peter Turbo]

Ive gotten two Savs in the last year and one very recently that Ive been smoking and posting pretty regularly and I havent experienced this.

 

[damacene]

Have you tried a different tobacco?

Yes I tried a couple different tobaccos, same chemical taste. I ran a pipe cleaner through it just now after smoking, and it looks like stain is coming out in the mortise. I think that's the culprit as you suggested.

 

[crazyhog]

I decided to look at the mortise of my new Rattray Emblem. It's bowl is nicely carbonated. Looking into the mortise and shank it was a light stained red. I dipped a pipe cleaner in some Everclear and look what came out. My Savinelli Onda was not stained like this. It is clean now, after using 3 pipe cleaners. I have seen this in other factory pipes. Never in a handmade pipe. I think many pipe smokers just smoke through it as part of the breakin period. I prefer not to. Thanks

 

[crazyhog]

FYI,

Reasons for internal staining:

• Manufacturers' practices: Some pipe makers may stain the inside of the shank and mortise during production, sometimes as part of their finishing process, though this can occasionally affect taste in the initial smokes.

 

[karam]

Wash the coating out and lightly sand if necessary. The coat lightly with honey ans smoke away. That what I would do.I personally have had no problems with Savs but once had this happen with a Pete.

Yeah, I bought a new Peterson a couple of years back and it had some horrible gunky shit in the chamber, I reamed it all out and it's been fine since.

 

[gervais]

I haven't bought a savinelli in a few years and decided to purchase a new 622 Roman Lucite. For it's inaugural smoke I loaded up some Peretti Original Mixture and half way through the bowl I got this horrific burning chemical taste. I initially thought it may have been the blend, which I smoke all the time and has a lakelandish topping to it. I tried another blend and again got that horrible taste. Has savinelli changed anything in their production or did I get a black market ripoff savinelli?

I have the EXACT same problem with a newly acquired Savinelli 320 dolomiti. A few weeks prior I got a 320 punto oro that didn't have the chemical taste. Seems like this is a Savinelli issue for certain pipes?! I'm hoping the nasty taste smokes itself out after a while, but I bet we are tasting the same thing. F"""ING nasty stuff

 

[damacene]

I have the EXACT same problem with a newly acquired Savinelli 320 dolomiti. A few weeks prior I got a 320 punto oro that didn't have the chemical taste. Seems like this is a Savinelli issue for certain pipes?! I'm hoping the nasty taste smokes itself out after a while, but I bet we are tasting the same thing. F"""ING nasty stuff

It's atrocious. Like burning industrial chemicals/plastic. I know it's not a Castello, but I feel like for $130 it should be ready to smoke. I think I'm just going to return them and get a Tinsky I've been wanting for a little more money.

 

[Pypkė]

I just started smoking out of a new Sav that had the black coating in the bowl. No nasty taste noted. Just the tobacco.

 

[Sig]

Ive always removed the coating if I inadvertently bought a coated pipe, or it was the only option.
The Peterson 315XL I recently bought had a coating. I promptly removed it. Luckily their coatings come out extremely easy. Very minor scraping and light sanding and you would have never known it was there.
I really don't get why makers put coatings in their bowls. The easy answer is to protect it.
But that doesn't fly. For two centuries millions of uncoated pipes have been completely fine without a coating. I've probably broke in over 200 pipes without coatings, with zero issues. In fact, I've never heard anyone having an issue with uncoated pipes.
I believe the answer is to either hide and protect internal defects, which I could see being an issue....even though I've got pipes that had pits in the bowl that are fine after decades of use.
I believe the better answer is the coating makes the pipe look more complete. Ive heard pipers say that before.
Either way, I don't like them and believe they are more of a detriment than a perk.

 

[Questionable Source]

I believe the better answer is the coating makes the pipe look more complete. Ive heard pipers say that before.

I read an article that said newer pipe owners now expect a bowl coating, and that the manufacturers are following suit to meet this expectation, whether they felt it was needed or not.

 

[LeafErikson]

I’ve never noticed any imparted flavor or taste from Savinelli’s bowl coating.

 

[Sigmund]

Every bowl coating gives off a taste. If I leave it in a pipe I smoke something strong the first few bowls. Even the most neutral ones will ruin a light vaper or virginia. Some are worse than others.

 

[mpxstyle]

I have a Savinelli Dolomite with coating, I haven't notice any flavor on the first smokes, but, I have several Petersons with really awful smokes at the begining, with nothing in common, diferent color, diferent finishes, some have a great start, and some need some smoking to burn what I think is the stain may be, cause I think all of them have the same coating. After 5 to 10 smokes I never feel again the weird chemical flavor, so my guess is, is just normal