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Richmond B. Funkenhouser

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Most of the true aficionados that I know of, don't just limit themselves to Virginias. There are some damn fine burleys out there. Me? I just love tasting regardless.
I think that the single-most falsehood circulating right now in the pipe social media word is that burleys don't age well. I have found this to be absolute nonsense.

Lucky for me I haven't gotten into the Virginias, the GH ropes I really like. Those are said to be Virginias, seems to me they must be of a very specific type. Other Virginias I have tried are not the same animal. Burley is my bag, I'm currently cellaring codger burley blends and those seem to be the easiest to grow and process.
 

Bengel

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I have a novice question, could person “tie” the leaf into a rope and cure it that way? Forgive me if I am asking in ignorance, not familiar at all with the processes, but really enjoy reading and learning from you all.
 

cosmicfolklore

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There are quite a few orientals that make great ornamentals. They grow small, have beautiful small blooms, and smell great. They make great border plants in the yard, and look fantastic around mailboxes.

Also, keep in mind that horn worms will find these plants from miles and miles away. I haven't found an insecticide that is worth using, but just check your plants every day is the best method for getting rid of them. I pull them off with some large tweezers and smash them with my boot. Easy peasy!
 

cosmicfolklore

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I have a novice question, could person “tie” the leaf into a rope and cure it that way?
There are a couple of reasons that this wouldn't work well. First the leaf really has to have a lot of air circulation to cure. If it is stacked too densely in the green state, it just molds up. Also, it is only the cured leaf that is strong enough to withstand the twist process. Green leaves would just tear, but once cured, the leaves are strong as hell.
 
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cosmicfolklore

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I think it may be in one of my Cosmic Crop yearly threads, but I had some Virginias my first year that I had forgotten about. I found it in the barn in an old cooler. I didn't have a kiln worth a flip, so I just air cured it. I tried smoking it, but it was very harsh because of the ammonia that had yet to get pushed off the leaf. I just put it all out in the barn and forgot about it. After a few years in Alabama heat, I found it, and tried it to find that it had become much more social (smokable). I made some twists with it, and it blew my mind how good it had become. But, most people don't want to have to wait a few years to get to that point.

I know a lot of guys like to make plugs. But, for me, storing jars full of twists is much easier than trying to get a plug that will fit into a jar. Plus, twists are just so much fun. Get the family to gather around and help. You can make latakia twists, VaPers, your own oriental mix, an aromatic, etc... things you don't ordinarily find in twist form. I age the twists in large half gallon jars, and then after a few years in that form, I slice them, and jar them up again for the long haul, or to go ahead and smoke.

I made a blend this Fall, I named Subtle Knife, after the Phillip Pullman, Dark Materials books. It had a lemony brightleaf base, with some dark Virginias, homemade latakia, and Japan8, which blew my mind at how good it came out.

Growing gives you the option to use different heirloom varieties with flavors that you just can't buy anywhere else. You are merely limited by your own creativity.
 
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There are quite a few orientals that make great ornamentals. They grow small, have beautiful small blooms, and smell great. They make great border plants in the yard, and look fantastic around mailboxes.

Also, keep in mind that horn worms will find these plants from miles and miles away. I haven't found an insecticide that is worth using, but just check your plants every day is the best method for getting rid of them. I pull them off with some large tweezers and smash them with my boot. Easy peasy!
Does BT work on hornworms? It works on other catepillar types.. like cabbage worms
 

cosmicfolklore

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Does BT work on hornworms? It works on other catepillar types.. like cabbage worms
In my experience, I have found a few dried up hornworms from the BT, but it only lasts a short time on the plant, and it doesn't seem to get them all.

I forgot to mention the point I was going to make with all of that,... I have found that using landscape cloth to cover the whole ground surrounding the bed you use to keep them away, almost 100%. Last year, I only had two worms all year.

They come up from beneath the ground, so the cloth prevents them from ever emerging at all.
 
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