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jvnshr

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I realize you are speaking only for yourself. For me however, nicotine and pleasure go together. Further,, history has shown that life always terminates with death. Some deaths are just messier than others.
Denigrating one vice to justify another is ludicrous. Just enjoy your pipe and try not to judge the vices of others. It makes it sound as though you were determined to have a vice, selected one that appeared as the least risky and so to support your choice you must denigrate all others.
You made your choice and you certainly do not need to justify it anyone other than yourself. It just sounds a little too smug and self-righteous. A bit of "I'm superior to you because my vice is less risky."
And, please . . . that bit about pipe smokers requiring knowledge, discipline and a certain mindset is just mindless pap. I smoke a pipe and certainly do not possess any of the three requisites you point out. Such a generalization is to disregard the varied membership of this forum. Knowledge, discipline and a certain mindset . . . what a load of . . . . .
@warren, I didn't justify anything mate, I am just discussing pipe smoking vs cigarette smoking, that is what the topic is about. I am sharing my experience and my point of view. I didn't say that "I smoke pipe so I am good and you smoke cigarette, so you are bad". I didn't mention any requisites for pipe smokers. I don't know where you got all those.I will stop arguing if you don't mind, because I realized that it is not going right. Have a nice day.

 

deathmetal

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Jul 21, 2015
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Denigrating one vice to justify another is ludicrous.
It's not clear anyone is trying to justify a habit here.
Saying, "This is a better way of achieving the same result" is not the same as saying "That result is morally bad."

 

warren

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Sep 13, 2013
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It's not an argument. For me it's a meeting of opinions and a bit of disagreement over what you opined. Maybe not what you said, but more how it was said. And, I believe you stated "Smoking a pipe, and to a lesser extent, cigars is a deliberate act requiring knowledge, discipline, and a certain mind-set." Italics mine.
My apologies if I created an argument where I intended to cause thought and discussion.

 

redstar

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Feb 17, 2014
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Swedish snus has helped me stop the cigarettes. I highly recommend it if you can get it. Pipe smoking is a treat when Travelling for work or when the wife is away.

 

redpanda

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Sep 11, 2015
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The words Die, Death and Dying have been mentioned quite a few times here. I was just thinking, I wanna Die smoking a bowl of Mc Baren HH Old Dark Fired. What a blend !!!
Cigarettes ?? C'mon..

 

carver

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Mar 29, 2015
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Haha, I posted a topic quite similar to this recently.

Pipe and Cigarettes
@Warren: I think he's just trying to fight his own battles and needs to justify them and receive approval for them. I don't think he's trying to judge others.
My take on this and it's really mine, is that I love both, and by it, I really mean, I love smoking. I've been addicted to cigarettes for ages (I started quite young) and now it's impeding others things that I want to do. I found that if i smoke cigarettes then I don't smoke pipes. At the end of the day, I am already high on nicotine and I don't find smoking a pipe "pleasureful".

Additionally I try to run in the park twice a week which isn't easy when smoking cigarettes.

I love smoking pipes and, to me, smoking the cigarette, is for the rush and really just a mechanical habit that I don't even notice and that, besides a few selected ones during the day, I don't really enjoy.
I've received a lot of advice and experience from others and it really seem that everyone has their own way.

 

jvnshr

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My take on this and it's really mine, is that I love both, and by it, I really mean, I love smoking. I've been addicted to cigarettes for ages (I started quite young) and now it's impeding others things that I want to do. I found that if i smoke cigarettes then I don't smoke pipes. At the end of the day, I am already high on nicotine and I don't find smoking a pipe "pleasureful".

Additionally I try to run in the park twice a week which isn't easy when smoking cigarettes.

I love smoking pipes and, to me, smoking the cigarette, is for the rush and really just a mechanical habit that I don't even notice and that, besides a few selected ones during the day, I don't really enjoy.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
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Granted, pipe smoking will surely deliver some Nicotine to the system, but not nearly close to the same consequences that cigarette smoking can do seeing that they are meant to be inhaled, and obviously much more addicting than smoking a pipe.
The problem with tobacco is not the nicotine, its tar and particulates causing lung damage which can increase risk of cancer and other problems.
You can take nicotine all you want, so long as you stay below a fatal dosage, with no health consequences. It's all in the delivery method, which is why some people prefer the patches.

 

redpanda

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Sep 11, 2015
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Ah, I remember the days when I used to suck on the Marlboro Lights. Yes the first for the day was really good, but the other 19 not really. Whereas the pipe ? One has to choose what to smoke, in which pipe to smoke it, you gotta pack the pipe right, you gotta light the pipe right. You know you're going to enjoy it if you do it right. I enjoy every single pipe I smoke during the day and night.

 

blackbeard

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 13, 2015
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While I do have that evil friend lying in wait for someone to have me wake up without a cigarette; I find my primary dealings with cigarettes is habitual. I smoke WAY more if I'm outside. If I'm inside it's usually 1-2 hours and they call my name but I may not answer. If I'm outside there is a possibility I may light up in 30 minutes. I enjoy both cigarettes and pipe tobacco, but...pipe tobacco is much more of an experience. Turns out, the more pipe tobacco I smoke, the less cigarettes are allowed to come into play.
They are completely different to me and usually in conflict. With smoking, anyone who's done it for a while knows about the cough, the stained fingers, the smell on your clothes, having to step out frequently, etc. Having said that....not inhaling the pipe tobacco how often do you cough? How stained are your fingers getting from that pipe? Do you hear "You smell like an ashtray," when you come in after a bowl of pipe tobacco? Are you trying to find the nearest exit to get you a quick bowl on in before you get on the plane?
To me it boils down to, smoking a pipe is more about the experience than the nicotine; while smoking a cigarette is about a habit and a need. While it would be upsetting, laying down my tobacco pipe would be much easier than my cigarettes.
On a side note...I lost a bet and am now certain that Marlboro Reds do have a dirt taste to them. After 10 years of smoking....never bet with someone who's smoked for 30+ years. There's my rant. Have at it!

 

redpanda

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 11, 2015
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So, interestingly it turns out the majority of people here smoke both cigarettes and pipes. I did not expect that to be honest, not that I am in any way disappointed or anything. But the fact remains, very few people can share my experience on the same level. Anyway, the thing is, regardless of what you smoke (pipe,cigars,cigarettes etc.) one thing remains constant. And that is how much you smoke. I used to smoke cigarettes all day long, and now that I have given up, I don't think I can be seen very often without a pipe in my mouth. So healthwise...to hell with health. Who wants to be really healthy doesn't smoke at all. Smoking some Orlik Golden Sliced tonight.This stuff is so good I can smoke it 24/7. Cheers everyone !

 
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