Peterson Irish Flake: how strong is it? (first non-aromatic tobacco)

[olkofri]

Machado, do you get nausea regardless of the pipe you smoke?

 

[mrmachado]

Machado, do you get nausea regardless of the pipe you smoke?

Do you mean pipe, or pipe tobacco?
Nausea happens every so often with random tobaccos.
But the nausea from this Peterson Irish Flake was just absurd.
I'm not giving up on it yet though.

 

[olkofri]

Pipe. I was wondering if it's only with that Savinelli that got the cleaning treatment.
Sorry for beating a dead horse, but I still think that nicotine is not your problem.

 

[mrmachado]

Actually with the Savinelli I felt way less nausea than with this new Stanwell. Barely zero.
God knows why.
Maybe the Stanwell is the problem? You got me thinking...

 

[mrmachado]

OK, just tried a partial bowl in my old Savinelli and it's much better in all senses.
No nausea and the taste is much better.
I wonder if a pipe that isn't broken-in (the Stanwell) can make a person nauseated (?). Doesn't make a lot of sense but seems to be the only explanation.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Machado, This IF is renowned of being a strong tobacco,You better off with partial bowls or smaller ones

 

[mrmachado]

Paul, the Savinelli smoked better straight away. It must have something to do with the pipe too...

 

[rdavid]

Wondering if your having a reaction to briar. Was the Savinelli bowl coated with the black pre-carbonization when it was new? Was the Stanwell bowl bare/naked briar? Maybe the Stanwell bowl was stained inside?
I know you have experience with cigarettes and cigars correct and you had no issues with nicotine before this right?
Just a thought. Trying to eliminate variables.

 

[olkofri]

It's possible that you might be having a reaction to the chemicals used in the coating. Maybe your next pipes should be coatless.

 

[mrmachado]

Wondering if your having a reaction to briar. Was the Savinelli bowl coated with the black pre-carbonization when it was new? Was the Stanwell bowl bare/naked briar? Maybe the Stanwell bowl was stained inside?

The Savinelli was black inside, but I don't know if it was pre-carbonized. It tasted neutral to me. The Stanwell pre-carb had a strong taste though.

It's possible that you might be having a reaction to the chemicals used in the coating. Maybe your next pipes should be coatless.

And here I am with the salt and alcohol treatment and reaming again. I thought more or less the same thing as you thought. It's one step away from bare wood now. I'm being very careful not to over-ream it this time.
Oh, and the Irish Flake tasted waaaay better on my first pipe, the Imbuia Bazzanelli, which has quite some cake in it. Tastes way sweeter.

 

[olkofri]

I think every manufacturer uses a different process or compound for their coatings. Funny thing is that these coatings are meant to hasten the build up of the famous cake.

 

[mrmachado]

Yes... I think that this does more harm than good, at least in my case.
"Haste makes waste"
Adding fake cake when you can just build it normally... I won't ever buy a coated pipe again.

 

[monkeylyf]

Smoked a bowl last night, probably 3 hours after dinner. My stomach was turned upside down. My mistake on way too many retrohales...

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Machado@Thats a good bet,but take it easy,since as for me,I almost had created a burn out to two of my estates and one brand new,learned it hard way, whereas today when I have a pipe with a naked chamber,prior to first smoke I'd give a chamber a swirl or two of hone,I have found this helps in building a tiny carbon layer faster,agreed this very additional sugar while burning may also lead to some overheating issues.

 

[mrmachado]

Once I began to find this blend amazing and started to mix it with other tobaccos to tone it down, the tin was finished. What a shame.
It's really like a hammer in the head though. I only get to fully enjoy it if I tone it down. Despite its amazing taste, it's damn strong.
monkeylyf I understand how you feel...
Paul I thought this honey thing was a myth, nice to know it's true.

 

[recluse]

What are your opinions on this?

Strong, and tasted/smelled too much like cigarettes for me to enjoy.

 

[mso489]

Partial bowls sounds like the way to go for now. You may be puffing too hard, so try to sip instead. Stay hydrated. I think you'll hit a stride where you'll enjoy the flavor and won't get the nausea, but take it slow.

 

[luigi]

If you have more pipes you can also put a pipe aside when you're bored with Irish Flake and load another one with some other tobacco. I often pack a full bowl of it and when my nicotine needs are satisfied I switch to something lighter. It sometimes takes several days or even a week to finish it all.

 

[foursidedtriangle]

I use old dark fired like that too, as a way to complement lighter tobaccos to give them more strength and flavour.