One For The Detectives Bewlay Olde 49 Prince

[paulfg]

I have just picked up this nice looking Prince from the bay.
So who made it any ideas?
I know the olde 49 range was slightly higher than standard and hope some one can narrow down the maker by shape number/COM mark etc

 

[ssjones]

It's not GBD or Comoy's

 

[paulfg]

thanks Al,I have seen it speculated that it could be an Orlik shape number ,but I am hopeful someone will either comfirm or deny it.

 

[mikestanley]

It's been my understanding that Belway was a product of the Barling factory.

Mike S.

 

[paulfg]

It's been my understanding that Belway was a product of the Barling factory.

Mike S.

If you mean Bewlay,Mike
they were an English tobacconist chain and had pipes made by Barlings,Charatan.Orlik and sasieni and maybe others.Sold stamped with the Bewlay name and finishes.
That is why I hope an expert can narrow it down

 

[donjgiles]

Is the stem stamped Hand Cut?
If so, it is an Orlik.
Nice pipe!

 

[pappymac]

Nice looking pipe. I'm drawn to that shape for some reason. How long is it?

 

[bluegrassbrian]

Interesting tenon.

 

[sablebrush52]

That shaping doesn't yell Barling at me, and the stamping in wrong for a Barling made Bewlay. The stem and tenon do kind of remind me of Barling. Lots of makers made Bewlay pipes for Finlay's.

 

[jensen]

Mr G. Huybrecht also made pipes for Bewlay. Mike Blakemar took over his stamps after he passed away.
Among those Bewlay Extra, Olde 49, Quaint and Special Grain

 

[donjgiles]

Dunhill had a prince shape, 258...

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[paulfg]

Is the stem stamped Hand Cut?
If so, it is an Orlik.
Nice pipe!

yes Don it looks like it,not sure if you can see it from this picture.I dont yet have the pipe to hand

 

[paulfg]

Nice looking pipe. I'm drawn to that shape for some reason. How long is it?

seller states 6 inches 3/4 "x 1 1/4" chamber

 

[paulfg]

That shaping doesn't yell Barling at me, and the stamping in wrong for a Barling made Bewlay. The stem and tenon do kind of remind me of Barling. Lots of makers made Bewlay pipes for Finlay's.

i had discounted Barling as the maker Jesse

 

[BROBS]

looks like it's missing a significant amount of stem material...

 

[paulfg]

looks like it's missing a significant amount of stem material...

do explain

 

[sablebrush52]

looks like it's missing a significant amount of stem material...

Stem looks pretty good to me. What's missing?

 

[dmcmtk]

Paul, you will know if it's a Group 1 size pipe or not (Don's 258 Dunhill example) immediately.

 

[BROBS]

do explain

unless the stem was always smaller than the shank?
looks like its been buffed or sanded way down.
with deep oxidation still remaining.

 

[pappymac]

Interesting reading on pipedia about Belway. I didn't remember that they were formerly Salmon & Gluckstein. I have a Salmon & Gluckestein with a silver band hallmarked for 1896.