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Most news is not news anymore. I find very little in any mainstream media, left or right, that gives me what's happening without trying to tell me what to think about it.

Consume carefully and sparingly, just like intoxicating beverages. Too much of either and you find yourself unable to form your own coherent opinions.
 

Akousticplyr

Lifer
Oct 12, 2019
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I think Edward R Murrow is rolling over in his grave. One could quite easily and handily argue that the state of journalism today is in decline, to put it politely.

The fact that people's attention spans have been reduced to soundbites makes everything presented become a recipe for a bi-polar, zero sum "he said she said" "you're with me or against me" "right or wrong" "black or white" atmosphere. Why? What ever happened to shades of gray? Context? Backstory? Three sides to every argument? Opinion vs fact? When did feelings supercede facts and statistics?

Not only that, but the disagreements become extreme ends of the spectrum i.e. if you are of one political persuasion the other "side" is now evil. Not wrong. Not ill-informed. Not a legitimate viewpoint based on their personal perspective. Just evil. How fast do online "debates" (haha, right) devolve into "you're a Nazi" vs "you're a socialist scumbag"... seconds? Minutes? And these internet keyboard warriors are so brave when they're anonymous, but I think we all know what they'd be like if they were in the same room as the people they spew their hate towards.

Far too many "news" shows have talking head opinion panels which are nothing more than echo chambers and make the population stupider. Gone are the gritty, dedicated panel shows that had aggressive 'debate team' style setups (Crossfire, Hannity and Colmes) where you got immediate rebuttals. Now, completely unhinged things are said regularly by these vapid idiots and they remain totally unchallenged. It's shameful. Don't get me started on the hypocrisy.... example: what was yelled from the mountaintops about "stay at home" last week is a completely different song this week.

Too many people get outraged over nothing and feel like it's their job to crush and vilify whatever/whoever offended them. The slightest perceived offence is grounds for execution now, especially online. This cancel culture crap is childish. No one has the right to not be offended. These kid-dults need to grow up.

Sorry for the vent. A republic doesn't fall due to external events, it rots from within. People can only make choices if they have access to accurate information concerning society, both the govt and the press have a special duty to collect and disseminate this information. Thomas Jefferson wrote that a well-informed electorate is a prerequisite to democracy.

Whoa, why am I still typing? I am preaching to the choir, anyway. I'm going to go smoke a pipe and relax. Who cares what a dipstick like me on an internet forum thinks anyway, right? Besides, in a couple billion years our Sun will burn out and it'll all be moot.
 

saltedplug

Lifer
Aug 20, 2013
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I stopped being a customer of TV, TV news, radio news and mainstream magazines in college and controlled by the corporations. You read nothing that they don't want to be read. What we come to know influences the vote and could undermine the politicians that vote their agenda.

The biggest businesses want nothing more than complete authority over their practices, and they are more than willing, through their lobby, to pay for it.

The order of the day, especially for those who can exempt themselves from all regulation, is greed and more greed.
 

saltedplug

Lifer
Aug 20, 2013
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Akousticplyr said:

People can only make choices if they have access to accurate information concerning society, both the govt and the press have a special duty to collect and disseminate this information. Thomas Jefferson wrote that a well-informed electorate is a prerequisite to democracy.

People can only make choices if they're not stupid, and stupid is all we produce, dysfuctionals with HS educations working minimum wage jobs.
 

Misanthrope

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I barely pay attention to the TV, but I’m constantly hearing about stuff from everybody else at work or at home, so there’s no escaping it.

News went to shit the instant a profit motive entered the picture, and it stopped being about informing the people with some semblance of trust and integrity. Journalism nowadays seems to just be agenda-driven propaganda and overly opinionated and intellectually lacking talking heads shaping everything to fit their favorite narrative, and you pretty much have to backtrack sources all the way to the AP/Reuters wire level to strip away all the opinionated fluff, and then you’re still left with an incomplete picture.

If we hooked up a driveshaft and a generator to Edward R. Murrow’s grave, we’d have perpetual free energy.
 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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The biggest businesses want nothing more than complete authority over their practices, and they are more than willing, through their lobby, to pay for it.

The order of the day, especially for those who can exempt themselves from all regulation, is greed and more greed.

Maybe if government protected competition instead of protecting monopolies it would improve the situation.
 

saltedplug

Lifer
Aug 20, 2013
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We've become government by and for the 1%. In the last 4 years every statute and practice that protects the little guy has been systematically overturned. Across the board representatives of business trying to push back regulations have been hired to run the very agencies they had contested. Big energy's agents, whose profits are vast, occupy most of the positions that would regulate them.

Big business has been loosed. What a party for the Fat Cats. "If there's money to be made, if there is any vulnerability that can be exploited, you can be damn sure someone is taking advantage of it.

Greed and more greed.
 

olkofri

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I long for the day when we have an outlet that reports on what happen today. These reports should be without opinion & spin of any kind...but it’s never gonna happen because of the powerful agendas of folks calling shots. ☕

It's more complicated than that. Neutral spin-free news doesn't really sell all that well. There are sources for just basic plain old news it's just that nobody reads them because they're neither fun nor outrageous.
 
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It's more complicated than that. Neutral spin-free news doesn't really sell all that well. There are sources for just basic plain old news it's just that nobody reads them because they're neither fun nor outrageous.
Personally, I’m not interested in a complicated approach to the reporting of the news. An stoically dispassionate reporting would be refreshing and provide ability to make decisions based on facts as opposed to truth; which is skewed too often by those responsible for delivering the news to the public. Sexy, fun or outrageous should be saved for tabloid journalism. I’ve neither been hopeful or enthusiastic about the nature of reporting for a very long time. Some may argue that the “public trust” has always been agenda driven to change the status quo...but this is neither novel or news.☕
 

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You might like the Associated Press website. It's a not-for-profit news agency and has a reputation for straight ahead reporting. No opinion columns or think pieces.
 
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