UPS Now Requiring 21+ Signature on Tobacco Shipments
UPS will require a person at least 21-years-old to sign for all packages containing cigars and other tobacco products. A revision to UPS's "Transportation
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So P&C is blameless but gets royally flamed because of UPS guidelines. People are too quick to vent here. As for the new guideline, fine with me.
True, but UPS is not the only domino that has fallen for tobacco retailers. States have increased their restrictions on the delivery of tobacco products and even cities are trying to get in on the act. To expect a retailer to be flawless with this type of changing and conflicting regulation enforcement is unreasonable.
For their free delivery P&C uses a combination of UPS with a hand off to USPS at the end. So the signature upon receipt would already be part of the deal. And as I wrote, given my neighborhood USPS carrier's vagaries, I now require it where possible.
Ok, but for the sake of clarity, that thread specifically stated that he paid extra for priority shipping, and that it was USPS from the beginning.
He also stated toward the end of the thread that P&C acknowledged to him that they put a signature requirement on it by their own mistake.
EDIT: And yeah, I know, first world problems (I guess we're still first world).
He also stated toward the end of the thread that P&C acknowledged to him that they put a signature requirement on it by their own mistake.
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I know, I know..... It's my fault for thinking anything would change, but they are the only ones selling Hansom Flake and I wanted some to give away for a birthday present for my buddy (who hinted around that he wanted some) so I broke my own rule and bought from P&C again. I paid extra...
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EDIT: And yeah, I know, first world problems (I guess we're still first world).
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Ahh, well in that case, get out the torches and pitchforks and leave no one alive. Let the punishment fit the crime.
Again, true, and I take the poster at face value. But, in my exchanges with P&C's CSR and Shipping departments those two units do not communicate with efficiency. My guess is that the CSR was trying to satisfy a customer complaint by accepting responsibility and apologizing which P&C did.
But that would require leaving the house.
Personally I have no strong feelings toward P&C pro or con...but I thought it worthwhile to clarify what was said in that thread.
I've never had any major issues with P&C myself...only complaint would be that pretty much every single order I've ever received from them, including fairly recently, was packed very poorly.
P&C's packing is crap. It's always been crap. It is likely to always be crap. SP is slightly better, but not brilliant. Esterval's is OK, again, not brilliant. I've never had a shipment from any dealer that was well packed, just some less poorly packed than others. And I've gotten dented tins from all of them. It's an inconvenience, not a tragedy. This doesn't merit my outrage.
Your house burning to the ground because the professional arsonist picked the wrong address, finding out that your kids caught some fatal disease at school and will croak out before the weekend, your dog decides she hates you and chews through the keepsake Patek Philippe your father gave you before he disappeared in the Amazon jungle, your best friend in the world is killed in a plane crash while flying in for your wedding because the airline was scrimping on maintenance, you find out that you're losing your eyesight and there's little that can be done, those are be tragedies, not inconveniences. There's a difference.
So, yeah, when I think about it, people here vent mightily over inconveniences like they're tragedies.
I quit using UPS years ago. USPS gets my deliveries here much faster.
@sablebrush52 How did you know my father disappeared in the Amazon jungle?
This is the only point I'd differ with a bit...in my experience SP is consistently more than slightly better with packing.
Us? Does that mean "U.S.", or are you under the impression that I reside in the Monarchy to the north?
I see...not sure how that occurred...glad it's cleared up.
The internet is often good for creating wrong perceptions.
I have had Canadian bacon before though, if that counts for anything.
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