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crawdad

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Been smoking an Oliva Connecticut petite corona and instead of getting a sweetness and flavor I'm getting mostly ashtray mouth. Draw was tight in beginning.

Truth is I used Diamond wood matches to light it but surely that wouldn't be the issue?
 

alaskanpiper

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Been smoking an Oliva Connecticut petite corona and instead of getting a sweetness and flavor I'm getting mostly ashtray mouth. Draw was tight in beginning.

Truth is I used Diamond wood matches to light it but surely that wouldn't be the issue?
Had one a few weeks ago with a similar experience. First one I had a while back I liked alot. Odd. They arent my favorite CT. I like RP 1999s and Padron Damasos.
 

odobenus

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I get ashtray-mouth from time to time. Not pleasant. Seems like sometimes it's the Ecuadorian CT wrapper, or the combo of CT wrapper and Nic. filler -- got the exact same thing from the Perdomo Reserve 10th Anniv. Champagne Series and the Roma Craft Intemperance EC XVIII -- and sometimes happens either when the draw is too tight, so I'm huffing and puffing and it gets overly-hot, or counter-intuitively, when the draw is too open and it gets hot no matter how slow my cadence is. I realize this is heresy, but that's my one gripe with Padron Delicias -- I think the draw is too loose and the tobacco gets charred (as opposed to the Londres, which seems to have a reliably perfect draw and flavor).
That being said, I didn't have that particular issue with the Olvia CT petit corona, but I did find the mustard-like greenish-yellow color of its wrapper to be weirdly off-putting.
 
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mso489

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Wood matches are not the problem. Maybe a bad batch of cigars.
 

hoosierpipeguy

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Tight draws cause you to draw harder which results in more heat, just like a pipe. It also could be too moist. Anytime any tobacco starts to taste ashy, there is a 90% plus chance it has gotten too hot. A cigar, just like a pipe, should draw relatively effortlessly. When I get one that is rolled too tight or has a plug, I feel the cigar to see if I can find an area that is "stiffer" than it should be. I put pressure on that area to try to work out the plug. In most cases, it is a waste of time and I just toss it. Life is too short to smoke crappy cigars, or pipes.
 
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mso489

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I'll Google it, but offhand I don't know what a Perfectdraw cigar tool is, not being a big cigar person.

...Okay, it is a little skewer that cuts an airway into the cigar to improve the draw, and it looks like it might also remove the tip.
 
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hoosierpipeguy

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I just use a Perfecdraw cigar tool , that sorts the problem of a tight draw.
Mixed results. If the plug is really tight, it plugs up pretty soon after you start smoking again. The only thing I've experienced that works consistently is using a long drill bit, around 1/8", to actually ream out the plug and remove some tobacco. You can rotate it with your fingers.

Many plugs are exacerbated by keeping the cigars at a higher than needed humidity level. When lit, the wet tobacco swells up. Plugged cigars are also a bigger problem in the summer when the outside humidity is higher.
 
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