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dahvrok

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Apr 4, 2019
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Hey guys, im new to smoking and i like pipe smoking but i tried a couple o tastes from some brand and get a lot of cigary taste. Is there any tobacco that give a good breeze of taste or at least less burning?

 

carolinachurchwarden

Preferred Member
May 9, 2018
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Raleigh, NC
Well, you're going to get this from someone eventually, especially if Jaytex sees this, so I'll just go ahead and be first...You can do no finer and find yourself a tasty pouch of Captain Black Grape!

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Yeah, okay, so that's out of the way. What type of tobacco do you want? Something that smells really good like an aromatic or are you interested in Virginias, English, etc.?

 

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It would help for us to know a few things about your experience so far. What tobacco gave you the cigary flavors? Do you smoke cigars? What is your favorite tobacco flavors; maduras, conneticuts, snuff, cigarettes, wintergreen, vanilla, etc...
I ask, because there are so many ways this could go. We could suggest flavors, like the grape above, or we could suggest tangy, subtle sweet, or big and bold and in some stronger burleys.

 

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It really depends on what you are looking for, and how trained your palette is to detecting flavours. If you are new to the pipe you won't really be able to discern much the first few times.

 

hawky454

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I would go with something like Orlik Golden Sliced or Reiner Long Golden Flake. Those are good flakes to get you going, they have refreshing citrus notes perfect for the spring time. But, Cosmic is right, there are hundreds of blends I could recommend but all depends on what you are looking for.

 

dahvrok

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Thank you all guys for the fast responses, i owe you some more info.
Ive never smoked but got a pipe and started doing it rarely at the office. I tried cherry & orange but cannot remember the brand. I will find it and write it. To be honest i was doing electronic cigar and expected some massive flavor on the pipe. I dont have favorite flavors cause i haven't tried any. On the electronic i tried some, favorite was berries.

 

cosmicfolklore

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Ahhh, ok, so we have a start... First off, no matter what tobacco we suggest, it takes a while to start to actually develop a taste and vocabulary for explaining what you taste. You are still in the aromatic genre, which is what attracts many guys into this endeavor, so you are not alone.
Some guys will suggest that aromatics are harder to taste in the beginning, and they might suggest something with latakia, but since you are Vaping, and you like these flavors, starting off with aromatics is ok.
I might suggest Lanes 1Q as an excellent vanilla that also has some very good tobacco flavors in there. Try it, and if you don't like the underrinding tobacco flavors, drop the pipe and stick with Vaping.
To get more flavor from your pipe, you need to ssssssssllllllloooooowwwwwww down. Just when you think that you are smoking slow, slow down more. It is the surrounding tobacco heating up that gives you the flavors, not the actually burning tobacco. Think of it as smoking at the edge of it going out. Relights are perfectly normal at this point. Practice smoking..,. sipping as slow as possible, meaning sipping long slow sips off of the pipe. Don't worry about big clouds of smoke, nor getting a big red cherry fire in the bowl, concentrate on sipping slowly.
See if that helps. Also, many will suggest something called snorking, which is releasing the smoke back out of your nose. Yes, this might give you more flavor, but is bad form here at the very begging of your pipe experience. Unless you just need to nic hit, it is best to avoid that early on... and after years and years, I don't even do it.
I hope this helps.

 

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I would suggest that maybe you could try some OTC blends out there. Carter Hall is a great one to smoke on. Sir Walter Raleigh Aromatic is also very good and it's got a lot of good flavor and aroma. Those two are great introductory tobaccos to get you rolling as they smoke very easily, but just remember to smoke them slowly and you'll really get the best out of your experience. After smoking through some of those, maybe you will develop a little more of an idea of what you're looking for. You could also purchase some fine 1 oz quantities of different odds and ends to try from SP's to give yourself an idea of what you might like.
Honestly though, it's hard to suggest something to you when you're not even sure what you like until you try some things out. If you don't want to go the OTC route, pick out a Virginia, English, and aromatic from the bulk selection at SP's and give them a shot.

 

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Pay attention to your lighting too. Don't touch the flame to the leaf, but hold it a quarter of an inch or so above. If you scorch the tobacco it will taste very ashy.

 

dahvrok

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Yall have being a very helpful community. Thank you carolinachurchwarden for the flavor suggestions and Cosmic & Olkofri for the techniques, i will try as much as possible.
Generally im doing a healthy living so i dont get the smoke in the lungs but naturally feel the burn in my mouth. Is it going to create problems after years? I have heard pretty bad things like throat cancer, bad tongue, yellow teeth etc. I dont want to be the nerd but need to ask just once.
Also is there any way to keep the smoke burning for a bit longer? I guess only puffing

 

cosmicfolklore

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Ummm, what's wrong with brown teeth and a raggedy leather tongue? Mine is like a cat's. My wife really likes it. :puffy:

And, throat and mouth cancer are easily found by dentists for us all the time. If caught early enough, it's not a big deal.
I hate to be the one who runs you off, but neither Vaping nor pipesmoking is going to benefit your body as much as a long hot soak in a bath, or a jog, or eating kale. For most of us, we climbed down from smoking cigarettes to pipes, because it was a lesser evil. Some guys come to pipes from some crazy notion of it looking cool. Others will claim to like the flavors... although most of those who say that started off like you, with "I can't taste anything" posts, ha ha. So... how exactly did you want tobacco to improve your health?
There is a self-imposed relaxation... although, most of that is from getting tense from not having nicotine, and then getting nicotine eases the stress... like rolling in poison ivy to get itchy, and then scratching the itch for easing the itch. It's a self-imposed circular stress reliever.
The upsides are that it smells wonderful on you, and you will smell like it all the time, because you will stop smelling it soon enough... but everyone else will. It's so cheap, that you can actually make money from all of the savings you'll be getting on new pipes and tobaccos. Also, people always adore smokers. We are the most popular people in the world. People rush to thank us for smoking all the time. :puffy:
Other than that... it has some down sides also.

 

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Also is there any way to keep the smoke burning for a bit longer? I guess only puffing
Don't puff, sip...sip slow. Also, dry your tobacco before loading especially if it's a moist aromatic blend. There are blends that you can smoke straight from the tin, others need to be dried 30 minutes and there are some (Molto Dolce) that seems never to dry. Each blend is different. Don't worry about re-lights, we all do it.
Oh yeah, one more thing...welcome and keep asking questions.

 

dahvrok

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Damn Cosmic, im 23 man i cant have a destructed mouth x) i like the sensation thogh. Are you sure i will smell like the flavor and not just smoke?
scloyd thanks man, im finding it with time, you are pretty laid back happy to be here

 

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well I'm just going to go ahead and get this out there, since you mentioned you vaped also. I vape as well, when I'm out and about because it's the only thing that could get me off cigarettes. So I know from experience, that you are never going to get the same amount of flavor, or same kinds of flavors from smoking a pipe as you are from vaping. With one you get a strong blast of flavor on your tongue that is very sweet. The level of flavor you get is akin to a piece of candy. Pipe tobacco, regardless of what's in it, or what it's flavored with is never going to give you that amount of flavor no matter how slow you smoke it. They are two completely different experiences. But if you keep at it, and learn to detect the hints of flavor that you can get from the pipe, you'll appreciate it a lot more than the other. Vaping is for the hand to mouth and nicotine addiction, with candy and pastry flavors as an added benefit. Pipes are for enjoyment, and relaxation.

 

hawky454

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A lot of us disagree in this regard (imagine that, pipe smokers disagreeing!) but I think light to moderate pipe smoking can actually promote good health but if you get to Cosmic’s style of smoking you start to get into more risky territory, I don’t think he even removes his pipe when he sleeps. Lol. I’m in the Fed Hanna and Rick Newcombe camp and tend to agree with their findings on health and moderate pipe smoking. At least that’s my story and I’m sticking to it! I can’t say that my health has personally improved since picking up the pipe though but then again I’m more in the risky territory as I smoke a pipe more than I probably should.

 

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I hate to be the one who runs you off, but neither Vaping nor pipesmoking is going to benefit your body as much as a long hot soak in a bath, or a jog, or eating kale.
Kale is now one of the most pesticide-contaminated vegetables
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/20/kale-is-now-one-of-the-most-pesticide-contaminated-vegetables.html
 

olkofri

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Generally im doing a healthy living so i dont get the smoke in the lungs but naturally feel the burn in my mouth. Is it going to create problems after years? I have heard pretty bad things like throat cancer, bad tongue, yellow teeth etc. I dont want to be the nerd but need to ask just once.
The burnt feeling is normal for beginners. Colloquially called 'tongue bite' (though technically speaking, tongue bite is not a burnt tongue, but a chemical reaction to a given substance—even salty or spicy foods can bite you), it would likely create problems in the long term—which is why we must develop proper smoking techniques to reduce it or eliminate it altogether.
I won't get into the whole health debate (again), but if you use proper techniques and exercise moderation you shouldn't have any problems, unless you're already susceptible to something. There're way more variables involved in the developing of illness than just the 'carginogens' you get from the combustion of tobacco.

 

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The watchdog group publishes its “Dirty Dozen” list annually, in which it ranks the 12 produce items that contain the highest amount of pesticide residues. The group analyzes data from the Department of Agriculture’s regular produce testing to determine the list.
Ranked alongside kale on the list are strawberries, spinach, nectarines, apples, grapes, peaches, cherries, pears, tomatoes, celery and potatoes.
I eat all the other ones, but Kale is stale! Kale makes me pale! And flail. And that's no tale; I'd rather eat shale.