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[ashdigger]

Smoky, "telling it like it is?" Not hardly. Clearly you've never been in the hole. Being a "man" is horseshit.

 

[aldecaker]

+1, Tinner. If nothing more, this thread has helped sort the human beings from the bullshit knuckle-dragging chest beaters on this forum. I don't know if the OP is for real, but I guess we'd better yell, "Jump! Jump!" just in case. Friggin' sick.

 

[smoky]

I guess some things will never change around here. As always, someone has an unpopular alternative opinion and everyone piles on with the attacks and criticisms. I never realized telling someone that others have pulled through much worse situations, and to not give up is actually telling them to 'jump'. Lol. :roll:
Yes, Tinner. You have your wish. I will go away.

 

[ashdigger]

"Unpopular alternative opinion" let's try Bullshit. Sounds easier.

 

[smoky]

Telling someone that others have pulled through much worse situations, and to not give up on life is bullshit? Whatever.
What's bullshit is the group bully mentality on this site that seems to be encouraged. Don't agree with an unpopular opinion or suggestion? Just pile on the criticisms and attacks to shut them up and drive them away.

 

[ashdigger]

Well, that's not what you said, but since you need to be right....you win. You've clearly never been there. You toss out selfish like it's a given. If you're in the hole it's relief.
The OP appears to need help, not a morality lesson that won't HELP.

 

[aldecaker]

There's a way to do that in an encouraging way, and a way to do it in an excoriating, kick a guy while he's down way. You chose the latter, and now you're trying to make it sound differently.

 

[smoky]

Well, that's not what you said, but since you need to be right....you win. You've clearly never been there. You toss out selfish like it's a given. If you're in the hole it's relief.
The OP appears to need help, not a morality lesson that won't HELP.

I don't need to be 'right'. I don't care what you think. I gave my honest opinion to the OP and was instantly criticized and attacked for it. Suicide IS selfish. Don't like my opinion? Fine. I could care less. And by the way, no one here knows anything about my personal life to tell me 'you've clearly never been there'. Don't try to judge someone you know nothing about.
I'm done here.

 

[aldecaker]

Speaking for myself only, I'm basing it on this: absolutely no one could ever have been in that type of position and, regardless of their own outcome, have that shallow and moronic of a lack of empathy for someone else's situation.

 

[prairiedruid]

Telling someone that others have pulled through much worse situations, and to not give up on life is bullshit? Whatever.

Actually this is one of the worst things to say to a suicidal person; it belittles and downplays what is a very serious time for this person. I've struggled with clinical depression for over 15 years; meds don't work, therapy didn't work, ECT didn't work so I basically bootstrap my way through the darker times. Focus on one thing that is important to you whether that be a family member, spouse, friend or even a pet and use that to hold on for one more day. Tomorrow if it is still bad do it again. Seek professional help, it didn't work for me but I do know others that swear to it's effectiveness. Good Luck and feel free to PM me if I can be of any help.

 

[zack24]

I think everyone started with some good advice here for the OP, but once a thread like this starts creating some friction that might exacerbate the original problem, it's a good time to close it down...

 

[ashdigger]

PrairieDruid, that's my story too. Exactly.

 

[mcitinner1]

Spencer was right about the double thread that was shut down first. It had more of the OP's story, and more helpful info and well meaning thoughts.

 

[smokeyweb]

Don't hurt yourself, bro. Get help. Call 911 if you feel suicidal. They will take you to the hospital and get you the professional help you need. Nothing is worth killing yourself over. Things will get better. I promise. Your kid needs a father. Suicide is not the answer. Please don't put your family through that pain and suffering.

 

[perdurabo]

Alternate Opinions do get the shaft around here. I should say opinions get the shaft, but this guy didn't need the Suicide is for Loser routine. You haven't lived until you put the barrel against the head.

 

[perdurabo]

There is life after these holes we find ourselves in.

 

[pitchfork]

I guess some things will never change around here. As always, someone has an unpopular alternative opinion and everyone piles on with the attacks and criticisms.

A) You joined the day before yesterday. B) Why don't you take your own advice, "be a damn man" and stop whining about how someone criticized you.
Just telling it like it is -- I'm sure you understand.

 

[mcitinner1]

:clap: Thank You Pitchfork.

 

[woodsroad]

Smokey Said:

"Yes, Tinner. You have your wish. I will go away."

Well, man up and get on with it already.

 

[ashdigger]

^^^ THIS