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danimalia

Lifer
Sep 2, 2015
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So I have a Lane 1Q question. I have read from a number of places that many times Lane 1Q is sold in bulk by B&Ms under a different, house name. That seems weird to me. Is it legal? Does Lane mind, or are they just happy to be moving product? Does it happen with other blends that are re-named by shops?
I asked in another topic, but I think my question got buried.

 

philobeddoe

Lifer
Oct 31, 2011
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East Indiana
This is standard operating procedure for tobacconists, very few shops actually blend their own tobaccos. Lane and other companies supply ready made blends that shops can, very legally, rename as they like.

 

buster

Lifer
Sep 1, 2011
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I can ask at my local tobacco shop who the maker is. I saw a Hazlenut blend and asked if it was Lane's. He looked on his list and said it was. Some jars have a brand name and others not. I don't think it's a secret? It's just marketing..

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
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Sort of like generics -- you will see them show up multiple places because they were not originally intended to be sold as branded.

 
Some places are less forthcoming with what their bulks are. The Gatlinburlier in Gatlinburg, TN, was telling me a whole hoopla of stories about how the blend was specially grown just for them, just down the road off the Blue Ridge Parkway, yaddi yaddi ya... I pointed out that Peter Stokkebye was one of my favorite blenders, and that each of their blends came straight from the PS catalog without any changes. I even went through the whole selection and pointed out what each one was called. He finally hung his head and winked, but then kept telling his stories to the rest of the suckers in the store.
I'm not sure why they would do this, unless it was to make themselves seem more important than they are. Why not just have a blend really special made for the store? I know that The Briary is working with some companies on getting some of his own blends made. McCrannies does this also. It does require having huge minimums made up, which is a dent in the budget, but I would think that the rewards of having a store blends actually tinned up for these places would drive in more business. Heck, I send McCrannies a check a month to keep the RR coming in the mail. And, I wouldn't even have known who they were except for this blend.

 

danimalia

Lifer
Sep 2, 2015
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San Francisco Bay Area, USA
Haha, fair enough. It just strikes me as a bit weird, considering that some tobaccos like 1Q and the Stokkebye blends are immensely popular, tried-and-true favorites. Seems like they'd bet better off marketing the known quality of those blends.
Then again, I am always looking to try new stuff, so maybe the novelty factor sells more of the stuff. I dunno. I don't own a shop.

 

leonardw

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 30, 2011
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A lot of our bulk blends back in the were given names that are less-than-ideal from a marketing perspective (RLP-6, HS-3, etc.), so I assume some of the original intent was to allow tobacconists to rename the products.
Do we care? Yes and no. Like any consumers goods company, we would idealy like consumers to be able to recognize our brands no matter where they shop. But the practice has been in place so long, and we would never want to do anything to disrupt tobacconists' current business models, so it's not a practice we would attempt to stop.

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
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Seems pretty similar to the old practice of selling "House Pipes" that were manufactured by someone else.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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A year or two ago, one of our former moderators put out a long, long list of all of the names used by various retailers for Lanes 1-Q. Obviously, this was okay with Lanes, to let the retailers make the blend their own, by name anyway. It's a well-liked aromatic that is well-accepted by generations of pipe smokers and especially people new to pipe smoking. I think I like Lanes LL-7 a little better for its more interesting flavoring, but I have slowly lost interest in aromatics and mostly smoke non-aros now.

 

okiescout

Lifer
Jan 27, 2013
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I think there is quite a bit of this that goes on. With internet sales and bulk prices some small B&M's get a little lock-jaw when it comes to what the jar says and what the baccy really is. If it is something they make versus something they buy bulk themselves. I buy some tobacco from my B&M that could be purchased more cheaply online but I want to support my B&M (it is a great place to hang) so I pay the toll it takes to keep them in business. Cigars are more lucrative for them to sale already and I want to encourage them to be friendly to pipe smokers.

 
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