Thanks again,
When I start on something, I research it to the ends of the earth before I jump in head first.
I do see the pipe now Jacks, I didn't go deep enough into the website when I looked the first time.
The pipe only came with the filter that was in it, and when I was reading some threads, most people said they take the filter out, so that's what I did.
I should try smoking it with the filter in, i suppose, to see what it's like that way.
Mark