English Without Spice?

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seamusjft

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Afternoon chaps.

I'm not a lover at all of aromatics. I just don't get on with them. It seems though, all the blends I buy are spicy. Now I don't mind this but I don't particularly want that pepper tang every smoke.

Bearing in mind I'm ltd to uk purchases, which non aro blends could you suggest that are not spicy or peppery?

 

rmbittner

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I equate spicey/peppery with perique and some orientals. (But it very much depends on the orientals. For me, Basma-forward blends are deliciously sweet, Yenidje is more like incense, Drama and Smyrna a bit more acrid to my palate.) I think you'd be best served by blends that have no perique whatsoever and focus on lighter orientals (or have no orientals at all).
The whole range of Virginias and Virginia/Burley flakes is open to you. Unless you can better identify which tobaccos are giving you problems, I think you're absolutely safe to explore any of the straight Virginias and Virginia/Burley flakes from McClelland, Rattray, Pease, etc. Just avoid any that also contain perique.
I don't think I've ever heard latakia described as peppery/spicey, but that might also be behind your perceptions. If that's the case, you might appreciate a lighter English that puts more focus on the Virginias and keeps the orientals and latakias in the background. (I tend to avoid these, though, so I don't have any good suggestions.)
I hesitate to give many recommendations beyond the biggest companies, since I have no idea what's available in the UK. Anyone else?
Bob

 

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philobeddoe

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+1 with Rmbittner, avoid Perique. This is the tobacco generally known for producing a peppery flavor. Also as others have stated above, try some Virginia only or Virginia/Burley blends, as these will be the least "spicy" tobaccos. I won't recommend any single tobacco, as I have no idea what tobaccos you have access to, but do your homework and lookup the content of those you do have available and you should be able to find a tobacco that suits your palette.

 

eaglerico

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How experienced are you as a pipe smoker? I ask as it may also be some of your technique that is causing the "pepper" flavor. When I first started and even still now if I push a blend to hard I would end up with a peppery type spice. I felt it was the various blends I was smoking so I got a few different types of blends with the same result. I have now changed my smoking style and do not get this anymore but on occasion. Primarily when I am having trouble keeping a particular blend lit.
If your smoking technique is not your issue then the above recommendation are the way to go.

 

fitzy

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I'm not sure what blends you can get over there but I'd suggest you look at Dunhill Early Morning, Dunhill 965 and Villiger 1888 Early Morning. I don't find any of those to be peppery as I don't think they contain Perique.
Also if possible if you can import from the USA I'd absolutely suggest Hearth & Home's Black House and Hearth & Home's Magnum Opus. They are both fantastic Balkan style blends.

 

kris

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Petersons Irish Oak is a nice smoke. As is Dunhill Royal Yacht, don't know if either would be described as an aro though...

 

fitzy

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+1 Frog Morton
I've smoked only the Cellar version so far and it was amazing. It's what got me started trying English style blends. I can't believe I didn't think of that in my first post.

 

seamusjft

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Thanks gents for all your replays. It sounds like in a nutshell it's the perique. As it was squadron leader and germain 1820 that were the culprits but not a problem. I like it. Just not all the time.

I've only been smoking 7 weeks but I'm pretty dedicated lol up to 10 bowls a day.

Kris I have EMP and Irish oak and your correct. They are not peppery. What I'd like is something similar to these two but a little stronger all round. Flavour, taste and bit N!

I have a sample of frog Morton en route. I'm excited about that and som 1q!

 

thesmokindragon

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When I started smoking, I smoked a good bit of Dunhill's London Mixture,

and after a good year of age on her ; she smokes even nicer...I

don't recall pepper spice in the blend..should be on Par w/strength to

SG's SL..I went back to read reviews on the blend again/and think

if you haven't tried this one it might be worth it...I'm going to have to

pop another tin soon....brings back great memories

 
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