Dunhill Nomenclature - SP?

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bluegrassbrian

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Friend just acquired a Root Briar shape 120 and the letters SP are stamped with the rest of the nomenclature.
Other examples can be seen from a google search but I haven’t found an explanation.

Anyone know?
 

georged

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Yours is only the second 120 SP I've heard of.

I have the other:


Still trying to find out what it means after 30 years...
 
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bluegrassbrian

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Yours is only the second 120 SP I've heard of.

I have the other:


Still trying to find out what it means after 30 years...

Wow ?
 

guylesss

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Yours is only the second 120 SP I've heard of.

I have the other:


Still trying to find out what it means after 30 years...
It really is a mystery, George. I was going to suggest how very annoying the laws of physics can be--and complain that we can't turn back the clock fifteen years-- so you could reach out to John Loring, since this was exactly the sort of geeky question he relished and loved solving.

BUT his October 2004 "update page" for The Dunhill Briar Pipe specifically notes the SP stamp; although, regrettably, without any explanation of what it might mean, in a paragraph titled: "NEWLY REPORTED STAMPS".

"1956 & 1958 (possibly 1968) Root--an "SP" underneath the Circled Group Size/Finish code. . .".

And that's all he wrote.
 
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bluegrassbrian

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It really is a mystery, George. I was going to suggest how very annoying the laws of physics can be--and complain that we can't turn back the clock fifteen years-- so you could reach out to John Loring, since this was exactly the sort of geeky question he relished and loved solving.

BUT his October 2004 "update page" for The Dunhill Briar Pipe specifically notes the SP stamp; although, regrettably, without any explanation of what it might mean, in a paragraph titled: "NEWLY REPORTED STAMPS".

"1956 & 1958 (possibly 1968) Root--an "SP" underneath the Circled Group Size/Finish code. . .".

And that's all he wrote.
Saw that.
 
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mso489

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We need to hold a seance to invoke foggymountain who knew his Dunhills. He sold them as a teenager in Manhattan. Maybe some of the Dunhill specialists still here can answer this.
 
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jguss

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They were presentation pipes made by Dunhill for Sergei Prokofiev, who in his will passed them on to Sidney Pollack, who later gifted them to Scottie Pippen.

The tradition started long before Dunhill was established with Simon Peter. The original chain was broken with Samuel Pepys, since nobody could be found willing to put in their mouths anything that had been in his.
 

BROBS

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They were presentation pipes made by Dunhill for Sergei Prokofiev, who in his will passed them on to Sidney Pollack, who later gifted them to Scottie Pippen.

The tradition started long before Dunhill was established with Simon Peter. The original chain was broken with Samuel Pepys, since nobody could be found willing to put in their mouths anything that had been in his.
But then will Scottie Pippen “pass” them and gain yet another assist?
 
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