Disgruntled, Frustrated, and Miffed.

[tokerpipes]

EDIT: Fixed Capitalization in Title - Bob

So I was about to place an order with my favorite tobacconists p&c, love Russ and the crew. When low and behold after putting all my stuff in the basket and head to check out I can’t get any of my tobacco. Stupid state laws in Washington have made it illegal to ship tobacco into the state if you are not a licensed retailer.
I had enough of a stash to last me a couple years when I moved here for work.
I get the reasoning behind the taxing and even the underage issues but to simply make it illegal is dee da dee stupid. What are the legislative dorks thinking? Need help finding a tobacco shop or someone who likes to travel up this way to accept my purchase from Russ and the guys.

 

[diamondback]

They’re not going to stop, that’s for sure.

Not with tobacco and not with... other things. Heavy weather ahead guys and dolls.

 

[BROBS]

So I was about to place an order with my favorite tobacconists p&c, love Russ and the crew. When low and behold after putting all my stuff in the basket and head to check out I can’t get any of my tobacco. Stupid state laws in Washington have made it illegal to ship tobacco into the state if you are not a licensed retailer.
I had enough of a stash to last me a couple years when I moved here for work.
I get the reasoning behind the taxing and even the underage issues but to simply make it illegal is dee da dee stupid. What are the legislative dorks thinking? Need help finding a tobacco shop or someone who likes to travel up this way to accept my purchase from Russ and the guys.

The problem is that Washington State sucks........................

also you just said "travel up this way".. to where in the state?

 

[tokerpipes]

I live near Mount Ranier.

 

[sandollars]

Same dealio with Utah.

They put the ONUS on the seller so as to discourage shipping into the State.

Lucky for me, I have 2 residences and so I ship to my California house (for now until THEY make it illegal).

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Bipartisan bills keep getting drawn up to stop all tobacco from being bought online, from catalogs, or mailed. This is coming real soon. Cellar deep, because what we have today is not going to last much longer.

 

[tokerpipes]

The biggest problem I have is that now my tad is not going to be filled the way it needs to be by having limited blends at the B&M’s near me. I mean come on they don’t have the variety that an online or catalog can supply.

 

[diamondback]

If only we had some sort of... I don’t know the legal term for my grandiose idea... Bill of Rights? Like an enumerated list of common laws that preserves our liberties.

 

[tokerpipes]

I just figured there is a fellow bacci brother that likes to do the hiking/camping thing that was maybe planning a trip over this way sometime. Wink wink. Now that I am on the limited suck list of states. Sure we can legally sell the wacky but what I want is the bacci. Lol.

 

[kwg116]

Sorry to hear that. P&C hasn’t shipped to Washington in over 5 years. They did everything they could, but were not able to legally ship there. They didn’t take it lightly since it was a big loss in revenue. Can’t blame them for a state law.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Car trip!

 

[tokerpipes]

Ok who lives in the Portland area. I am sure there are a bunch of guys out this way that want to do a road trip and visit with other bacci brothers. Who’s with me?(cue big patriotic band music)

 

[BROBS]

check out the Market Tobacco Patch outside of Pike Market.
owner is a good guy he could probably custom order you tobacco if you so desired.

and my experience in Washington State is that while beautiful it rains all the time, and there is quite a dichotomy of "city folk" vs "rednecks". Rednecks win from what I've seen.

 

[saintpeter]

Three statements.

1. The sun comes up in the East.
2. The sun sets in the West.
3. It's for our own good.

Which one is false?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Of course, forum rules prohibit us from conspiring to circumvent the law... publicly. ...But, hypothetically... if we had a system of people to buy for folks like you, and then repackage and make a shipment, individual to individual... laws wouldn't necessarily be broken.
But, you'd all have to find somewhere else to discuss it... at least until an admin tells us differently.

But, I do know that people discussed the problem with shipping to Canada so often that it made it the first Google hit when you Googled "sneaking tobacco into Canada." It was discussed so often that magically Canadian customs were pinging almost all tobacco packages coming across the border.
Jus say'n

 

[tokerpipes]

To many decisions when you have TAD withdrawals.

 

[tokerpipes]

Of course but we haven’t solidified anything yet but a pm couldn’t hurt.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

This shouldn't be that difficult to deal with. Make your orders larger to offset additional shipping costs. Find a friend or relative in another state, preferrably one that has low state sales tax. Have them accept the package then turn around and forward it to you. Yes, you'll pay a shipping charge but at least you can get tobacco. Since you'll know from the package the size and weight, you can even send your relative/friend a pre paid shipping label they can print out and attach.

 

[perdurabo]

If only we had some sort of... I don’t know the legal term for my grandiose idea... Bill of Rights? Like an enumerated list of common laws that preserves our liberties.

You already do, see the 10th Amendment, also gander Cosmic’s first post. Bipartisan is totalitarian wording at best. Until you grab your pitch fork.....never mind??

 

[perdurabo]

Of course, forum rules prohibit us from conspiring to circumvent the law... publicly. ...But, hypothetically... if we had a system of people to buy for folks like you, and then repackage and make a shipment, individual to individual... laws wouldn't necessarily be broken.
But, you'd all have to find somewhere else to discuss it... at least until an admin tells us differently.

But, I do know that people discussed the problem with shipping to Canada so often that it made it the first Google hit when you Googled "sneaking tobacco into Canada." It was discussed so often that magically Canadian customs were pinging almost all tobacco packages coming across the border.
Jus say'n

In Cometh the Bandit!