Changing Recipes without Changing Labels

[anotherbob]

of course Budweiser isn't bad just dull and boring. It tastes like generic beer and otherwise then having nothing interesting about it the stuff isn't bad. I think you're thinking of PBR. (just teasing)

you know like my favorite otc blend. Sail Yellow. It tastes like pipe tobacco.

 

[saintpeter]

Two words to solve this dire dilemma - Carter Hall

 

[sablebrush52]

@sablebrush52 when was Astley’s changed for the worse? About 2016, correct?

Also, can you confirm that HU Directors Cut is back to its former glory, back to the old recipe?

I remember you commenting specifically on those two blends, so I wanted to ask.

That sounds about right. People started complaining about Astley's 44 about that time.

With regards to Director's Cut, my understanding is that Hans spoke with K&K about their unauthorized switcheroo and that it has been changed back to what it was, but I can't personally verfy that as I haven't bought any recently, and have no plans to. I'm sitting on a kilo of the "K&K" version and I'm hoping that a few years will mellow it down to being something worth smoking. I also have the tins I bought in 2016, so I'm good.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

@sablebrush52 when was Astley’s changed for the worse? About 2016, correct?

Also, can you confirm that HU Directors Cut is back to its former glory, back to the old recipe?

I remember you commenting specifically on those two blends, so I wanted to ask.

2016 or 17. I’d call Astleys 44 a heavily cased or lightly topped licorice aromatic now.

 

[renfield]

I was just wondering, so many people now have acclimated to these bad recipes. I wonder if magically they brought back all of the originals for these, if people would respond well or revolt to the change?
Like if Budweiser actually put good beer in the cans, would their base get pissed off? It’d make for an interesting story. “I WANT MY SWILL BACK!!”

Interesting question.

Can you recall any case where a blend got changed and people said “this current production is better than the old”?

Hell, there are people who railed on the Peterson version of the Dunhill blends not long ago. Never mind that the only thing that changed was the label...

 

[sablebrush52]

Can you recall any case where a blend got changed and people said “this current production is better than the old”?

One that comes to mind is when A&C Petersen took over manufacturing of Escudo. A lot of people prefer it to the later Gallaher.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

One that comes to mind is when A&C Petersen took over manufacturing of Escudo. A lot of people prefer it to the later Gallaher.

But, don’t confuse this with the current STG Escudo…. which is not.

 

[mso489]

There are good reasons for changes in the flavor of a blend relating to sourcing, where the tobaccos are sourced, in which year, and how the seasons are there, and how the leaf has been cured and aged. However, a complete change of recipe is another matter, and that, I think, requires a different name for the blend. The more arbitrary the recipes of a named blend, the less meaning it has. You can fool the customer once, maybe twice, but after that, they go looking for a different blend in a different brand.

 

[Grangerous]

Interesting question.

Can you recall any case where a blend got changed and people said “this current production is better than the old”?

I can. The STG version of Granger is superior to when Pinkerton had it.

As to what Cosmic said, since it’s the current (present) version of this blend that I enjoy, — I have a cellar-full of it.

 

[sablebrush52]

But, don’t confuse this with the current STG Escudo…. which is not.

The current label has STG printed on it, which the Petersen product did not. Good to point out checking that label carefully.