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JTH1991

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Howdy folks. I have a quick cellaring question if you all wouldn't mind giving me some pointers. I'm about a month into this pipe smoking journey. I had purchased 4 blends of tobaccos, and based on advice of the Spurgeon Piper on YouTube, I immediately purchased mason jars to store my tobacco in. He talks how the tobacco stays good like this for a very long time. Yesterday I got out my jar of C@D Autumn Evening and noted that it was quite a bit drier than when I received it. When I got it, it was sort of damp/sticky, which I expected as it is an aromatic. This had me curious, and I checked the other 3 blends which were much drier as well. Have I done something wrong in my cellaring? Is my tobacco ruined? Can it be rehydrated? I should also note the jars were stored in a drawer of my dresser. Thank you in advance!
 
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RonB

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If you jarred them fairly soon after opening the tins you should be fine. Did the jars have a lot of air space left over? Many prefer their tobacco to be somewhat dry as I do. You can rehydrate if you prefer it with more moisture. There are many posts here about that.
 
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Drier tobacco is best. Truly overly dry tobacco is not often seen unless you leave your tobacco out in the desert sun for several weeks perhaps. I usually tamp down my tobacco in my jars and vacuum seal. Humidity is the same as when it went in for me. I like my tobacco 10 to 15%. Most aromatics will not get that dry staying about double that amount due to the humectants in the blend. Just pack lighter.
 

JTH1991

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If you jarred them fairly soon after opening the tins you should be fine. Did the jars have a lot of air space left over? Many prefer their tobacco to be somewhat dry as I do. You can rehydrate if you prefer it with more moisture. There are many posts here about that.
3 of the 4 I purchased were bulk blends that came in baggies. I got them swapped from the baggies to the jars within 2 days believe. They were still good and moist feeling when transferred. When first placed in the jar, they were soft sounding when the jar was shaken but now sound..well they sound dry if that makes sense. I'm trying to describe it but I sound silly I'm sure .
 
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JTH1991

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3 of the 4 I purchased were bulk blends that came in baggies. I got them swapped from the baggies to the jars within 2 days believe. They were still good and moist feeling when transferred. When first placed in the jar, they were soft sounding when the jar was shaken but now sound..well they sound dry if that makes sense. I'm trying to describe it but I sound silly I'm sure .
And yes, there was a big gap between the tobacco and the top of the jar. I had one ounce samples and used 16oz jars. That's all I had on hand. Do you recommend storing in a smaller jar?
 
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JTH1991

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Drier tobacco is best. Truly overly dry tobacco is not often seen unless you leave your tobacco out in the desert sun for several weeks perhaps. I usually tamp down my tobacco in my jars and vacuum seal. Humidity is the same as when it went in for me. I like my tobacco 10 to 15%. Most aromatics will not get that dry staying about double that amount due to the humectants in the blend. Just pack lighter.
I had heard that aromatics tend to lose flavor the drier they get. I did notice I wasn't getting a whole ton of flavor from the Autumn Evening but that could also just be my newbie palette not being developed enough
 
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khiddy

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I pack my tobacco pretty tightly into the smallest jar it will fit into, and then transfer the blend into smaller and smaller jars as I smoke them. I start with quart jars (which hold about 8 ounces of ribbon-cut tobacco), working my way down to pint jars, 8oz, 4oz, and finally 2oz jars. I don't pack flake and curly-cut tobaccos in as tightly, but I aim to put them in the smallest jar I can use without breaking them up too much.

Of course, this process means that I have about a million open jars in my smoking cabinet (well, perhaps 100), such that I have had to institute a policy that I must smoke two jars empty before I open any new tins. Which I thought at first would be difficult, but it turns out that getting a few more months' age on a tin that I had to delay opening in order to smoke a jar empty isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 

Sobrbiker

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Alrighty, I feel much better about the whole thing. I'll remember to pick up some smaller jars this week. I appreciate your help
Most cuts of tobacco are a 4:1 (jar to oz of tobacco) ratio for a good fit, 8oz jars work for a tin or 2oz bulk most loose cut blends. Flakes and plugs take up less space, and shags can take up more.
 

kcghost

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Being an aromatic smoker, you don't need lot of space for your tobacco, but you do some extra. If you put the seal on properly and the cap on firmly you should be fine provided the room is kept at a reasonable temperature.
 
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Sig

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Very odd.
Ive got 30 year old jars of tobacco that are moist and delicious when opened.
Are you using jars with a flat lid and separate screw on ring?
Bail top jars are no good for storing tobacco. Some may be airtight for awhile, but others will not.
If you ARE using the 2 piece jar lids, make sure there is no tobacco around the rim of the jar before closing.
Also, use the appropriate sized jar.
If you put a 2 ounce tin in a pint jar, it will dry out. For 2 ounce or 50 gram tins I use 4 ounce jelly jars from Mason or Ball. I've had issues with other brands sealing.
 

sablebrush52

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Howdy folks. I have a quick cellaring question if you all wouldn't mind giving me some pointers. I'm about a month into this pipe smoking journey. I had purchased 4 blends of tobaccos, and based on advice of the Spurgeon Piper on YouTube, I immediately purchased mason jars to store my tobacco in. He talks how the tobacco stays good like this for a very long time. Yesterday I got out my jar of C@D Autumn Evening and noted that it was quite a bit drier than when I received it. When I got it, it was sort of damp/sticky, which I expected as it is an aromatic. This had me curious, and I checked the other 3 blends which were much drier as well. Have I done something wrong in my cellaring? Is my tobacco ruined? Can it be rehydrated? I should also note the jars were stored in a drawer of my dresser. Thank you in advance!
Since they haven't dried into mummy dust, just gotten drier, they're probably going to smoke better with better flavor. Doesn't read like hydration is necessary.

Here's how I jar. Been doing it for decades, and haven't had any issues.

The ratio of jar to tobacco that I use is roughly 2 to 1. 4 oz jar for 2 oz of ribbon cut tobacco, 8 oz for 4 oz of ribbon cut tobacco, etc, etc. That's a fairly tight compression, similar to how most commercial blends are compressed when tinned in the round metal tins. I leave about 1/4" of air at the top to help with "aging". If you want to retard aging, vacuum seal the contents. 4, 8, and 12 oz jars are what I use so that I only open what I'm going to smoke and let the rest sleep.

The 12 oz tall jars are used for longer flakes, like the Gawith Hoggarth flakes. Otherwise it's 4 and 8 oz jars.
The ring is always left on. There have been a few jars that built up enough pressure inside from fermentation that the tops blew off, sailing 4 to 6 feet, when I removed the ring, so the ring stays on.

Different cuts may require more space than ribbon cut because they don't compress as much. Just fill the jar and leave a little room for air at the top.

A word about aging. Tobaccos don't "improve" with age. Tobaccos change with age, to a greater or lesser extent, and whether that change is an improvement is a matter for the individual smoker to decide. There are blends that I prefer fresh, but I'd rather have them aged than not have them at all. Too many blends disappear without warning, while others have component substitutions that the various blending companies won't admit to. When you find a blend that you really like, buy a few tins of it. Might taste very different the next time it's released.