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greatdane

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I recently opened a tub of Prince Albert. This was a Dominican Republic made tub so it must've been only 3-4 years old tops. The tobacco was however very dry so I rehydrated it. It smokes just fine now, but the taste is extremely muted compared "fresh" PA. The dry tobacco had lost nearly all its original taste.

It made me realize how important casing/toppings are, even in non-aromatic blends.
 
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cosmicfolklore

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To me Prince Albert and all of the codger blends are straight up aromatics. Maybe not as flavored as a Sutliff fruity blend, but aromatic none-the-less.
But yeh, age does the same thing with toppings and casings. This is why I prefer them with some age on them to shake off all of that extra stuff they add. Ultimately, for me, it is just better to search for tobaccos that never had casings or toppings to begin with.

If others prefer these added tastes, that's ok too. Just maybe avoid them drying out or avoid aging them. YMMV
 

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I recently opened a tub of Prince Albert. This was a Dominican Republic made tub so it must've been only 3-4 years old tops. The tobacco was however very dry so I rehydrated it. It smokes just fine now, but the taste is extremely muted compared "fresh" PA. The dry tobacco had lost nearly all its original taste.

It made me realize how important casing/toppings are, even in non-aromatic blends.
Captain Black Grape - which I am currently smoking - is very, very, grape when it was fresh. I just opened a jar that has a bit of age on it and the grape is very muted. The moisture level we still there as it was when I jarred it - but muted it was. I find this to be the case with both Latakia and perique.
 
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BingBong

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The moisture level we still there as it was when I jarred it - but muted it was. I find this to be the case with both Latakia and perique.
Well, that's not my universal experience. Germain's SLF has a comparatively muted lat fresh, but after some years it's front and center. Likewise with Cabbies, the virginias are in the lead fresh, after 5 years, the perique has elbowed them aside. These may be exceptions, though.
 
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Sig

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My absolute favorite tobacco is MacBaren Va #1.......with about 5 years on it. It's great fresh, but after a few years it loses much of the topping and becomes perfect in my opinion. I've never rehydrated any tobacco, I just smoke it dry if need be.
 

cosmicfolklore

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My absolute favorite tobacco is MacBaren Va #1.......with about 5 years on it. It's great fresh, but after a few years it loses much of the topping and becomes perfect in my opinion. I've never rehydrated any tobacco, I just smoke it dry if need be.
I wish that was the case for me. I picked up 5 pounds back 12 or so years ago. And, I still get that honey taste in the casing for it. I gave away most of it, but kept enough to see if 20 years makes more of a difference.
 
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Sig

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I wish that was the case for me. I picked up 5 pounds back 12 or so years ago. And, I still get that honey taste in the casing for it. I gave away most of it, but kept enough to see if 20 years makes more of a difference.
Ive got some 20+ year old stuff, it doesn't go away, it just gets more faint. I like the flavor, just prefer it with a bit less oomph.
 
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greatdane

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Dec 26, 2018
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To me Prince Albert and all of the codger blends are straight up aromatics. Maybe not as flavored as a Sutliff fruity blend, but aromatic none-the-less.
But yeh, age does the same thing with toppings and casings. This is why I prefer them with some age on them to shake off all of that extra stuff they add. Ultimately, for me, it is just better to search for tobaccos that never had casings or toppings to begin with.

If others prefer these added tastes, that's ok too. Just maybe avoid them drying out or avoid aging them. YMMV
Sounds like stocking up on Codgers or Aromatics is nearly a pointless exercise then, if taste mostly disappears with aging.
 
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Water or alcohol soluble organoleptic compounds dissipate when the water or alcohol evaporates. There can be a little left over in dried out tobacco but the vast majority will be gone. Many will break down with age too so that has to be taken into account when cellaring. Similar loss/change of flavor happens with smoky flavors such as that of latakia. I actually prefer a little muting of flavor over time in strong blends.
 

sablebrush52

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Sounds like stocking up on Codgers or Aromatics is nearly a pointless exercise then, if taste mostly disappears with aging.
Not always. Depends on the blend and what flavorings the manufacturer used. I’ve smoked decades old blends where the flavorings were still very much in evidence, though subtler.
But, if a blend is dehydrated to the point of verging on becoming mummy dust, the toppings will likely be dead or close to it.
 
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