Another Italian Pipe Shipment Hit With Customs and Duties Charges.

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npod

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Damn. :evil:
I just received a shipment of pipes from tobaccheriacorti.com. I got hit with $225 in customs and duties charges. My previous two shipments from Luca we’re free and clear and I paid only the sales price. As many of you know, I’ve been bitching about this issue recently. I thought it was isolated to FedEx, but this time it was DHL express.
The moral of the story is that we can expect US customs to start inspecting and charging for anything pipe and tobacco related in the future. Based on my own experience, and talking with others, I do not think there is any rhyme or reason to this. It appears to be a random act and there’s no way to predict it.
Here is the Customs bill. This sucks.



 

mso489

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Ouch. Just as the currency swings far in U.S. customers' favor.

 

npod

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The other problem here is that these issues are solely the responsibility of the customer and NOT the vender. Thus, the seller can't estimate these costs in the original purchase price. And there is no way to predict if the charges will be levied.
Thus, buyer beware. And please do not bitch online about a vender if this happens to you. It is not their fault.

 

jfred

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Going the other way across the pond, my experience is that 90% of all packages get inspected and taxed. Only the odd package escapes, so I just add a mental 25% to any purchases from US sellers (100% if content is tobacco... sigh).

 

briarblues

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Neal what was the declared value of the shipment? If under $800.00 US it should have been declared under Section 321 and as an informal entry with NO duty etc. That could have been arranged by the vendor or courier.
Regards

Michael J. Glukler

 

npod

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I thought of that one, Michael. In this case the value was a bit high. But, I this has happened before with a lesser value shipment.
But your advise to work with the vender to get the declared value lower is a solid nugget and pearl.

 

olkofri

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Could it also be that by now they have your number? Even though it's a different courier, they must all link to the customs deptartment's computers...

 

briarblues

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Neal, That is not exactly what I suggested. Trying to "circumvent" duty and taxes ( if caught ) can lead to a whole lot of problems for recipient and vendor.
I am just saying that any order under an $800.00 US value, entering the US from overseas should be declared as a section 321 with an informal entry. If over the $800.00 US level then all duties and taxes will be collected on the full amount. Not the difference between $800.00 and the value.
Now you have a little idea why prices are higher in the US than Italy. If a retailer in the US has an order arrive with goods over the $800.00 level, then all the duty and taxes get levied. If over $2000.00 US then it must enter with a formal entry which requires the services ( and costs ) of a customs broker.
Just to add to the above joys of being a pipe seller, now the FDA has their fingers in the pie, to make things move much quicker. Invoice declaration requirements have been changed. Now all items must show country of origin, type of wood, and end use.
It is not getting easier to be a pipe seller.
Regards

Michael J. Glukler

 

npod

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Damn Michael!
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npod

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And on top of that ... There is now internet sales tax collection.
Oh well.
This is a good thread to remind us all of the hassles involved with hobby. I hear people complain a lot about prices, but this is a good exercise in the margin costs involved behind the scenes.

 

burleyboy

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I know that feeling from ordering tobaccos from the US. They charge up to 150% of the US price of the tobaccos, if you order to Germany. It feels like being robbed. The worst thing is, that you do never know, whether it will hit you and it also seems, that they calculate differently everytime.
But the most important thing is, that you do not let them spoil the pleasure you get from your new (Castello?) pipe!

 

warren

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Wouldn't a bit of research with regard to customs, taxes, etc. preclude all of this surprise and righteous indignation? And then, rather than lament finally getting nailed, be happy you got away with the action for so long.
It's all part and parcel of enjoying our "hobby", right! Some of you sound as though you're not enjoying all aspects of the "hobby."

 

briarblues

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exactly correct Warren. Find out in advance what you may have to deal with, PLUS keep up with all the rules as they can change without notice.
I just recently learned about CETA. It is like NAFTA, but between Canada and the European Union. IF the vendor is set up with CETA as far as customs, then goods coming from Europe to Canada ( except tobacco and alcohol ) are duty free!! The key though is the seller / vendor must know about CETA and arrange everything with the carrier / broker etc. All the buyer pays is the HST, or GST, & PST depending on province.
So learn, read, and prepare for what you are thinking of buying. Know the ins and outs. If you don't ..... they will tag you with everything they can get their hands on.
Personally, I like to feel my hands in my pockets, not the governments.
Regards

Michael J. Glukler

 

mikethompson

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Good point Warren, but I'm sure that doesn't take the sting out of the bill though. At least you managed to dodge customs before!