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Can't Leave
Oct 23, 2020
362
6,907
48
Mt Juliet, TN
I picked up pipe smoking as a quarantine hobby back in the Spring, and I love it. Diving in and exploring/researching the pipe blend world, I feel like I may have missed some sort of Golden Age. For example, my local shop has a house blend that is an all time favorite of mine, and the owner there says he based that blend on Frog Morton Cellar. I look for that...gone. I read online how McClelland had been around for years cranking out an array of beloved and praiseworthy blends until they closed their doors just a while back. With the holidays coming up, all my searches for holiday blends show people raving about McClelland Christmas blends, with comparatively sparse and lackluster mentions of any other. Also, I keep finding mention of Penzance - gone. Elsewhere, I read of Lakelands. Sounds intriguing, and I want to try it. I can’t find the stuff ANYWHERE! An entire genre missing? Can any pipe scene veterans here give me some perspective on this?
 

mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
3,992
11,113
The Big Rock Candy Mountains
I picked up pipe smoking as a quarantine hobby back in the Spring, and I love it. Diving in and exploring/researching the pipe blend world, I feel like I may have missed some sort of Golden Age. For example, my local shop has a house blend that is an all time favorite of mine, and the owner there says he based that blend on Frog Morton Cellar. I look for that...gone. I read online how McClelland had been around for years cranking out an array of beloved and praiseworthy blends until they closed their doors just a while back. With the holidays coming up, all my searches for holiday blends show people raving about McClelland Christmas blends, with comparatively sparse and lackluster mentions of any other. Also, I keep finding mention of Penzance - gone. Elsewhere, I read of Lakelands. Sounds intriguing, and I want to try it. I can’t find the stuff ANYWHERE! An entire genre missing? Can any pipe scene veterans here give me some perspective on this?
There's LOTS of good stuff out there. Discussions here and elsewhere are skewed by talk about what isn't available. Unless you've already developed a taste for certain unobtaniums, I wouldn't sweat it. The number of blends that have come and gone exceed the collective memory of everyone here, by far.
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,455
Blends come and go, and brands come a go, and that has been happening for centuries. You've pointed out a couple of the departures or scarcities of recent time. This is still the golden age of pipe tobacco in terms of the numbers of brands and blends relatively available to today's pipe smoker, so bask in that while it lasts, and don't go into mourning. There is currently more variety and more genres than you will ever be able to sample. However, the big picture is that a regulatory boom is about to lower that will eliminate many blends, probably some brands, and perhaps a lot of the distributions and availability of blends. This has pipe smokers hoarding into the foreseeable future. Keep track of that.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
19,747
45,290
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Can any pipe scene veterans here give me some perspective on this?
I don't know if I would qualify as a pipe scene veteran as I've only been smoking pipes for about 48-49 years. But I'll share my thoughts about this.

Many blends and blenders have come and gone. Sometimes the blend returns, made by a different company and sometimes that blend is gone for good. Supplies for different blenders wax and wane, then wax and wane again. Part of the situation is that the Chinese pipe smoking community has expanded in recent years and are now getting a significant portion of production. This results in somewhat smaller amounts of blends making it to the US. This will adjust in time.

People are always pining over what they've lost or have difficulty finding. They bestow legend and greatness on hard to find blends. This is what I refer to as THE PSYCHOPATHY OF SCARCITY.

Most of it is bullshit.

There are plenty of great blends available for purchase. You get to start with a blank canvas and paint your own picture.

If your curiosity needs to be satisfied and your pocketbook is bottomless you can find most of these fabled blends. In my experience it's rarely worth the cost.

Welcome to the hunt! Have fun!
 

shanez

Lifer
Jul 10, 2018
5,199
24,140
49
Las Vegas
People are always pining over what they've lost or have difficulty finding. They bestow legend and greatness on hard to find blends. This is what I refer to as THE PSYCHOPATHY OF SCARCITY.

Most of it is bullshit.

^^^^This.

I picked up pipe smoking as a quarantine hobby back in the Spring, and I love it. Diving in and exploring/researching the pipe blend world, I feel like I may have missed some sort of Golden Age. For example, my local shop has a house blend that is an all time favorite of mine, and the owner there says he based that blend on Frog Morton Cellar. I look for that...gone. I read online how McClelland had been around for years cranking out an array of beloved and praiseworthy blends until they closed their doors just a while back. With the holidays coming up, all my searches for holiday blends show people raving about McClelland Christmas blends, with comparatively sparse and lackluster mentions of any other. Also, I keep finding mention of Penzance - gone. Elsewhere, I read of Lakelands. Sounds intriguing, and I want to try it. I can’t find the stuff ANYWHERE! An entire genre missing? Can any pipe scene veterans here give me some perspective on this?

What have you smoked that you have liked? People here can make some very good suggestions tailored to your tastes if they know the answer to this.

P.S.: Arango Balkan Supreme is a perfectly acceptable substitution for Penzance. Yes Penzance is great but barely worth the regular retail price vs Balkan Supreme and not even worth considering at scalper prices. So that's one hard to get blend sorted for ya.

P.P.S.: There never was any "Golden Age". Sure some fine blends are gone but there are many, many fine blends available. Actually, considering the sheer variety of blends on the market today, one could conceivably consider this to be a rather "Golden Age".
 

BROBS

Lifer
Nov 13, 2019
11,765
40,027
IA
I don't know if I would qualify as a pipe scene veteran as I've only been smoking pipes for about 48-49 years. But I'll share my thoughts about this.

Many blends and blenders have come and gone. Sometimes the blend returns, made by a different company and sometimes that blend is gone for good. Supplies for different blenders wax and wane, then wax and wane again. Part of the situation is that the Chinese pipe smoking community has expanded in recent years and are now getting a significant portion of production. This results in somewhat smaller amounts of blends making it to the US. This will adjust in time.

People are always pining over what they've lost or have difficulty finding. They bestow legend and greatness on hard to find blends. This is what I refer to as THE PSYCHOPATHY OF SCARCITY.

Most of it is bullshit.

There are plenty of great blends available for purchase. You get to start with a blank canvas and paint your own picture.

If your curiosity needs to be satisfied and your pocketbook is bottomless you can find most of these fabled blends. In my experience it's rarely worth the cost.

Welcome to the hunt! Have fun!
Absolutely. There are very few Great Ones gone compared to all the excellent, widely available, and cheap blends out there.
 
Jan 28, 2018
13,055
136,554
67
Sarasota, FL
I picked up pipe smoking as a quarantine hobby back in the Spring, and I love it. Diving in and exploring/researching the pipe blend world, I feel like I may have missed some sort of Golden Age. For example, my local shop has a house blend that is an all time favorite of mine, and the owner there says he based that blend on Frog Morton Cellar. I look for that...gone. I read online how McClelland had been around for years cranking out an array of beloved and praiseworthy blends until they closed their doors just a while back. With the holidays coming up, all my searches for holiday blends show people raving about McClelland Christmas blends, with comparatively sparse and lackluster mentions of any other. Also, I keep finding mention of Penzance - gone. Elsewhere, I read of Lakelands. Sounds intriguing, and I want to try it. I can’t find the stuff ANYWHERE! An entire genre missing? Can any pipe scene veterans here give me some perspective on this?

You can focus on what's gone or difficult or enjoy the multitude of tobacco available. Of course a few of those get lots of press just like bad need. The reality is, there's thousands of blends readily available. Your first order of business should be to develop an idea for what genre you prefer. Then you can start smoking blends within that genre.
 
I read online how McClelland had been around for years cranking out an array of beloved and praiseworthy blends until they closed their doors just a while back.
I was a huge McClelland fan, but it wasn't outrageously popular on here. Non-aromatic smokers make up the smallest percentage of pipe smokers, making us an obscure minority that makes up this forum. When McClellands would come up on here, more people posted making fun of the blends than singing their praises.
But, when they announced their closure, a few days later people were all of a sudden their biggest fans.

Anytime a tobacco company closes, or a blend goes away, the same damned people who made fun of it are all all of a sudden boohooing in the streets. Which, then makes newcomers all think that the blend or company was much loved across the prism.

Take the advice of those above, find what you like first. Then worry about the bullshit later.
 

Elric

Lifer
Sep 19, 2019
2,195
9,900
Liplapper Lane (Michigan)
tobaccocellar.com
I was a huge McClelland fan, but it wasn't outrageously popular on here. Non-aromatic smokers make up the smallest percentage of pipe smokers, making us an obscure minority that makes up this forum. When McClellands would come up on here, more people posted making fun of the blends than singing their praises.
But, when they announced their closure, a few days later people were all of a sudden their biggest fans.

Anytime a tobacco company closes, or a blend goes away, the same damned people who made fun of it are all all of a sudden boohooing in the streets. Which, then makes newcomers all think that the blend or company was much loved across the prism.

Take the advice of those above, find what you like first. Then worry about the bullshit later.

^^^^^ This!
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,455
A few suggestions: Shop a lot more for tobacco than you buy. Know what constituent tobaccos are in the blends you sample, and look for those you enjoy in other blends. For a few years, don't buy big quantities of any blend, even if you love it; your tastes will change. Blends you don't like, store in a jar and try again in a few years, when your tastes may have changed or aging has improved them. Buy just an ounce or two of bulk, one tin, or a pouch. If you are a note-taker, keep a log of what you try and how you like it, or do that by memory.
 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
5,117
3,517
Tennessee
Welcome to pipe smoking!

I agree with all said. You missed out on McClelland and Syrian Latakia... So you won't miss McClelland or Syrian Latakia.

There truly are 1000's of blends out there. Focus on your flavor profile and buy tobaccos in that vein.

Sample EVERYTHING you can get your hands on.

Join pipe clubs, do meet ups with site members near you, and go to pipe shows if they ever happen again.

Once you have a decent stable of blends, buy them.

Opinions vary, I buy til it hurts. Others don't.

I have enough tobacco to last me 3 lifetimes and my son's as well once he is old enough, unless he becomes a nic fiend.

It can be done efficiently, shop sales and use many different websites, folks on here when you have posted more, and club meetings/shows.

Focus more on tobacco than pipes. Pipes will always be around.
 

gerryp

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 8, 2018
704
2,368
56
Arabi, LA
Sam Gawith and Gawith & Hoggarth are in stock at a number of online retailers about every month or two, I think. As a matter of fact, I just checked and Tobacco Pipes has several Sam Gawith blends, including Squadron Leader, Kendal Cream, and St. James Flake in stock now.
I, too, mourned the loss of Frog Morton's Cellar. Then I found Seattle Pipe Club's Plum Pudding Bourbon Barrel, which pulls FMC's pants down to its ankles then stuffs it headfirst into a garbage can. You should try it.
 

jpmcwjr

Moderator
Staff member
May 12, 2015
24,708
27,310
Carmel Valley, CA
All said above! You can find any of the above if you look hard enough and are willing to pay dearly. Not worth it, imo.

You can put your location in your Profile—(please!—because people will forget!) That will save questions in the future as to where you live when you later mention local stores, weather, tobacco prices, availability, regulations, location of photos, wildfires, air quality, etc., etc..
Under your avatar, (top right, left most of three symbols) you choose "Account Details", which brings up "My Account". "My Location" is halfway down. Whatever you're comfortable with- town, city, county, state. Just country if you must.