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Was this made by hands at Dunhill?

  • Yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No

    Votes: 4 66.7%
  • It Could Have Been

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It Does Not Matter

    Votes: 2 33.3%

  • Total voters
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verporchting

Lifer
Dec 30, 2018
2,879
8,933
Can we PLEEEEEEZ lock this thread now? Please? ?

Sure man, it’s your Dunhill / moose, all I ask is that you let me take my saddle (the one with the white spot on the horn) off it before you tag and butcher it. ???
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
4,765
13,789
Humansville Missouri
It took me almost forever to finish a bowl of Half and Half in this gargantuan sized pipe. This is one of the largest and largest capacity pipes I own. And along with just a few of my very best Lees, Pre War Kaywoodies, and Danish freehands this pipe was expertly constructed from top grade (but not flashy) briar and gives off that hand made look, and has a hand made feel, that only the best things do.

But the button is a complete disaster.

The NOT FOR SALE stamp is crude.

The White Spot alone, and nothing else, would trace this back to the Dunhill plant.

But why would a stone cold expert pipe maker with an extremely high skill level utterly destroy the resale value of this pipe with a crude stamp, and an obvious salvage job on the button,,,,,for profit?

This came it’s said to the man who sold it to me from an expert Austrian collector of pipes other than Dunhills.

As improbable as it may be, the easiest explanation is a high grade extra large special bent pipe was going through Dunhill and the button was declared unsalvageable.

Then the entire pipe was condemned.

Dunhill neither gives away or sells anything but firsts.

They stamped NOT FOR SALE on it, because they meant it never be resold.

Here’s more photographs.

I’m letting it cool and filling it up with Gaslight.

It should take a half ounce.

No carver could reproduce this pipe, as large and well made as it is, for $100.

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anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
15,678
29,400
45
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Actually, lining up individual stamps to emulate a single one that has several words spelled out is literally impossible for a number of technical reasons.

Why it was done that way is obvious: a set of individual letters is dirt cheap and available to anyone online. Custom stamps are surprisingly expensive (one that spells "Not For Sale" would be around $250), and must be ordered from specialty makers. Phone calls, images supplied, questions answered, fonts chosen, spacing chosen, etc.

Also, legit stamps intended for wood cut much differently---far more cleanly---than the cheap "stamp kit" singles do. Meaning the impression they leave is distinctively different. There's zero doubt that singles were used in the case of The Fake Dunhill That Will Never Die.

It's truly funny to imagine some Dunhill shop worker fumbling with singles in a production environment.

The LeeBot ain't gonna quit now, though. rotf
oh totally but when it's that obvious you can say it was a rush job. :)
 

Ahi Ka

Lurker
Feb 25, 2020
6,520
31,474
Aotearoa (New Zealand)
I’m sorry bro but I call bullshit. I don’t know my Dunhills very well at all, but the guys that do have said, 1) the white spot itself is probably the easiest (and most recognisable) part of a Dunhill to reproduce, 2) everything other than the spot does not point to the Dunhill factory.

don’t get me wrong, I have been enjoying the yarns, but your insistence on not listening to the perspectives of the people you asked for advice from is almost offensive.

in regards to the “forgery” involved, what I’m curious to know, is whether or not the NFS stamping has actually made the pipe or less sellable - like you paid $100 for it, would you have done so without the stamp, or without the dot?

but please keep the (other) ruminating coming as you enjoy this pipe.
 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
5,491
13,920
It took me almost forever to finish a bowl of Half and Half in this gargantuan sized pipe. This is one of the largest and largest capacity pipes I own. And along with just a few of my very best Lees, Pre War Kaywoodies, and Danish freehands this pipe was expertly constructed from top grade (but not flashy) briar and gives off that hand made look, and has a hand made feel, that only the best things do.

But the button is a complete disaster.

The NOT FOR SALE stamp is crude.

The White Spot alone, and nothing else, would trace this back to the Dunhill plant.

But why would a stone cold expert pipe maker with an extremely high skill level utterly destroy the resale value of this pipe with a crude stamp, and an obvious salvage job on the button,,,,,for profit?

This came it’s said to the man who sold it to me from an expert Austrian collector of pipes other than Dunhills.

As improbable as it may be, the easiest explanation is a high grade extra large special bent pipe was going through Dunhill and the button was declared unsalvageable.

Then the entire pipe was condemned.

Dunhill neither gives away or sells anything but firsts.

They stamped NOT FOR SALE on it, because they meant it never be resold.

Here’s more photographs.

I’m letting it cool and filling it up with Gaslight.

It should take a half ounce.

No carver could reproduce this pipe, as large and well made as it is, for $100.

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OK, I'm gonna "go there":

Mr. BriarLee (whatever your real name might be),

What the effing hell are you trying to accomplish with all this? You obviously aren't looking for answers about anything. You've gotten them and categorically ignore them. You simply want to bleat endlessly about the magnificence of your basket pipe, and insist it simply couldn't have been made by anyone other than Dunhill. The end.

That's it.

It's all you have done (for several threads now), and all you apparently want to do.

Forever.

It is absurd in the extreme.

Are you a walk-away from a mental hospital? Are you some adolescent having what you consider to be a bit of fun, like egging passing cars? Are you someone with a grudge against Kevin and intent on messing with his forum?

SOMETHING is in play here that's abnormal in the extreme. Indeed, I've never seen anything like it in 30 years on the Internet.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
19,632
44,858
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Hoo Wee, Briar Lee!

Don't you pay those doubters no never mind. What you have there is the real deal, an honest fake, pure as the driven snow.

The hand that stamped that NOT FOR SALE stamp made no attempt to deceive the purchaser, but made every effort to produce a piece of honest dishonesty.

As George Washington Plunkett once said, there's honest graft and dishonest graft, and yours is as honest a piece of dishonesty as has been seen in this jeweled land in many a year.

You enjoy that pipe, Briar Lee, you enjoy that pipe and savor its purity of genuine honest fakery. That's something for sure!
 
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