I'm closing this thread after this final commentary -
I just spoke to Rich on the phone. He is pro-gun, pro-2nd Amendment. So am I.
It's just that some of the pro-gun, NRA people go too far over the top.
Rich was just posting the first paragraph of a New York Times article where they were showing promotion of guns to kids, which in my opinion, and Rich's is a little too much. Even though I'm generally on the NRA's side, they make us look bad by going too far sometimes.