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  1. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    ^^echo chamber Somebody come get their grandfather.
  2. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    You drive on roads. They serve a function. Do you drive on art? Certainly some crafts can be art, you could make a very fancy beautiful road made of gold. But not all art is a craft. Drawing doodles is not crafting. And you haven't answered my questions. Any of them really. Guess that makes us...
  3. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    And you clearly missed my point. Nowhere did I say that it is the key to an expensive pipe. I said it is a large reason for pricing. As is the craftsmanship and style... If you READ you will see that we are talking about a PERFECT piece of briar being that expensive. FFS go read man. I really...
  4. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    Animation is not craftsmanship. It is artistry. "there is a level of craftsmanship that comes through" how tf does craftmanship come through in a cartoon? lol Also, art is subjective. Something that looks or sounds great to you can be awful to someone else. And vice versa. Craftmasnship: it...
  5. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    I don't disagree with you. However, I do think that civil disagreement can be the foundation of a progressive conversation. How boring would it be if everyone agreed about everything? I've kind of found that to be the case on this forum. There are a few posters that post a lot that essentially...
  6. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    Right? God forbid anyone have a conversation and disagree with eachother.
  7. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    I wonder how much your buddy would say a flawless piece of briar is worth. Also, a good analogy to what I'm talking about is wine. Sure, the winemaker makes a massive difference in the quality of the wine. But the essence of the wine is the grape. Where and how it is grown.
  8. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    Why put art in my house? Because it looks nice. Because it increases in value. The art has no functionality in and of itself. It does not do anything. It sits there and has no use other than to sit there. The fact that you are now arguing obscure definitions of words is kind of sad. There are...
  9. smokeymo

    Breaking in a New Pipe

    I'm with Morrison. If you want to smoke a VaPer then do so. Just don't steam train it. Smoke it nice and slow the first few times to get an even burn.
  10. smokeymo

    Esoterica

    Nope. They develop pinholes. Had a nice bag of moldy Peacehaven a few months back. Open and Jar it, or put it in Mylar. Or just smoke it.
  11. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    My buddy is a Civil Engineer (us MEs like to call them Simple Engineers) and he can confirm this. I've had similar issues with NASA physicists. The worst are the marketing people though, overpromise EVERY TIME.
  12. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    Architects aren't engineers. Sorry bub. That's why you need structural PEs to stamp your plans. Edit: In addition, YOU aren't crafting anything. You are creating the plans for someone else to do the crafting. But yes, building is a craft that can be artistic.
  13. smokeymo

    What is it About Italians?

    Some of the best food I ever had was in Italy. And some of the best service as well. Power went out in one of the little hole in the wall places we were having dinner in, and they gave us gelato on the house. It was an excellent time;.
  14. smokeymo

    What is it About Italians?

    And yet modern Italy (Rome in particular) is not great.
  15. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    You'll never convince me that animation is a craft. There is art and there is craft. Craft creates something with functional purpose. A crafted item can have artistic attributes (a motorcycle, a desk, a pipe) but a work of art has no functional use. And most certainly that applies in this pipe...
  16. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    TOP level I super 10%; II grade good 30%: III grade for sandblast 60%. That alone proves my point. According to some on here, all briar is the same. Yet there are different grades. It's almost like some briar is better. And most isn't even worthy of pipemaking lol. Also, taking one cutter's...
  17. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    First of all let me say that I don't think Jack is using shitty briar haha As for my standards: - grain pattern (tight grain, as opposed to far apart. small, tightly packed birdseye as opposed to large and spaced out) - grain consistency (is the pattern consistent throughout the pipe, or do you...
  18. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    Oh I'm sure they exist
  19. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    My rebuttal to his claims were pointed and organized. And he did not offer a debate. Instead, he called observations myths and he called me ignorant for making these observations. When I stated that he must not have experience in crafting, he threw a tantrum and started making claims about...
  20. smokeymo

    Expensive Pipes--To Each His Own

    Movies are not a physical craft. I'm an aerospace and medical engineer. So, I'm around machinery that crafts lifesaving equipment and spacecraft parts. And hold on, I'm the one attacking? Do a better job reading sir. I merely stated that he doesn't know about craftmanship. Which is sounding...