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OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
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Sydney, Australia
PerfecDraw* well worth it, Fay’s for itself after saving me stick. Hard to go wrong.
You're absolutely right.

It upsets me greatly that "premium" sticks like Cohibas and Trinidads have issues.
And not just the standard releases, but their Edicion Limitadas and special releases too.
It's not the money asked for those cigars, but as @cigrmaster said, it's the lack of pride in their product.
Maybe it's the lowly paid Cuban rollers "sticking it up those rich capitalists" ?
 

AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
4,719
24,944
Florida - Space Coast
You're absolutely right.

It upsets me greatly that "premium" sticks like Cohibas and Trinidads have issues.
And not just the standard releases, but their Edicion Limitadas and special releases too.
It's not the money asked for those cigars, but as @cigrmaster said, it's the lack of pride in their product.
Maybe it's the lowly paid Cuban rollers "sticking it up those rich capitalists" ?
Hey for 3 or 4 bucks a day would you care? ?. The ones selling sticks to people on tours don’t even care, either do the higher up Habanos officials that are selling dozens of bundles at a time out the back door. The rollers selling their allotment of sticks get the blind eye i suppose it’s considered part of their pay, the higher up selling hundreds and hundreds at a time are just living in socialism and taking advantage of the system in place. In the end none of them care. Hell Habanos didn’t even bother freezing their sticks until the last few years.
 
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HitchensDog

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 22, 2020
236
824
Omaha, Nebraska, USA
I have an odd experience with this. I smoked cigars exclusively before starting with pipes. Eventually, pipes became my daily smoke and cigars less. Now, I smoke a bowl a day, and smoke 1 cigar a week (usually on the weekend). The strange thing for me, is that when I started smoking pipes, I started picking up more nuances with the occasional cigar I smoked. My cigars actually started tasting better, when I smoked them less.
 
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kcghost

Lifer
May 6, 2011
13,412
21,897
77
Olathe, Kansas
A great Cuban is a wonderful thing but as he says the prices have went out of sight. I have been smoking Nicaraguan cigars and pipes for thirty years with no problem. If you are sure your pipes have been maintained properly then you have to look to your Cuban supplier.
 

AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
4,719
24,944
Florida - Space Coast
A great Cuban is a wonderful thing but as he says the prices have went out of sight. I have been smoking Nicaraguan cigars and pipes for thirty years with no problem. If you are sure your pipes have been maintained properly then you have to look to your Cuban supplier.
It's not the cigars.
 
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pantsBoots

Lifer
Jul 21, 2020
2,135
7,542
Terra Firma
Something has changed, I’m not saying it’s a bad thing just caught me off guard, I’ve smoked cigars (Cubans) for roughly 15 years, several a day. Love my cigars, as they say like what you smoke and smoke what you like. With the great Habanos price massacre a few weeks back I’ve gotten into the pipe much heavier than in the past, right down the slope, a little bit of everything but those sweet Virginia blends are right in my wheelhouse.

I work from home and spend much of my waking time on my back porch working and smoking, 5 or 6 cigars a day would be a fair average, with pricing today there was no way i could sustain that so pipes have been a godsend where as now I’m down to two cigars a day and lots of pipes rounding out the day.

Here is the “issue” about a week ago i noticed some of my sticks started tasting off, bitter, bordering on downright tanic, not all sticks but quite a few of them, i checked the humidity in the cabinet amid wgile a bit higher than normal, 67% instead of 62%, certainly not enough to change cigars that drastically. I’m finding it more and more and I’m talking open boxes that have been fantastic and i had a hard time not smoking two of them a day, now they are bitter and have a sour and tanic taste to them.

I have some back door Sig 4s and tried one and it tasted horrible i was sure there was no way that came out of el lagito or any other factory rolling sigs, so i grabbed a sig that i was sure about and lit it up, same damn experience with flavors. A couple specific sticks, stored in the same cabinet still taste fantastic though beginning in the final 3rd the sourness pics up, too many years and brands for any kind of sick period and this is sticks I’ve bought, been gifted, the gamit.

Just wondering if any other cigar smokers here have encountered that, i know of at least one here and one old friend that i heard had the same experience. My question is did you tasted adjust eventually or did you just give up on cigars.

I have a few very nice HTF stuff that at this point I’m afraid to light.

please commence with the “send them to me!” replies lol

I've been a cigar smoker since 2006, heavily into Habanos since 2008 or so. I regularly enjoyed a cigar most days and sometimes 2 or 3 when carrying on with friends.

I started smoking a pipe in the spring of 2020, so still am new to the hobby and have enjoyed discovering a whole new variety of tobacco flavors and aromas. I am not sure how much is due to the novelty of just discovering pipe tobaccos, but I'm finding myself reaching for a pipe daily. I'm down to a couple cigars per month more as a change of pace. It's rare that I desire a cigar instead of a pipe.

We'll see as the journey develops, but I have noticed that I don't tend to like cigars if I've already had a pipe earlier that day - it seems pipe tobacco tickles a different part of the palate than cigar tobacco. Being used to pipes, I definitely notice the tannic nature of cigars, especially Habanos, and especially if they're still young in age.

The beauty of this is I went from having a 2-3 year supply of cigars to 10-20 years since I've switched to the pipe. This is after selling about half my collection to fund the building of a pipe tobacco cellar. The beauty of cigars is they hold their value, especially recently with Habanos, so if your love of the black tobacco leaf never returns, you can at least liquidate your stock, probably at a profit.
 

Searock Fan

Lifer
Oct 22, 2021
1,903
5,290
U.S.A.
Speaking of cigars.... I had a short bout with cigars in the early 90s. For a while I was able to buy my favorite cigar at a give-a-way price. This was right before the cigar boom hit. I could buy Punch or Hora de Monterey, Rothchilds, maduro or double maduro 2nds for 16 cents each in lots of 100. 2nds usually was because the wrapper color was a little off. They smoked great and I got hooked on 5 or 6 a day. Then the cigar boom hit the demand was so great the price went sky high and dealers of even putting the 2nds in with the first quality cigars and selling out. That was the end of my cigar phase. Just a well, because I'm a pipe smoker first and always. Haven't smoked a cigar in years. puffy
 

krizzose

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
3,126
18,182
Michigan
I've been smoking pipes and cigars for over half a century, and I've had numerous periods when my taste for tobacco deserted me completely. Everything tastes blah or worse. Take a break. It won't kill you.
Yep, this happens to me routinely and I don’t smoke very much to begin with. I just wait til I get the itch again, which rarely takes longer than 3 or 4 days.