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HighlandRogue

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Dec 19, 2021
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I've been watching YouTube and reading a lot of documentation and have a question. No doubt almost everyone has recommended Savinneli, and others, for a first pipe. Ok I'm good with that. My question though... Given my budget... Would I be better off purchasing 2 Rossi or 1 Savinneli? Grated I do have my eyes set on a Savinneli Roma 207... It's tough knowing what to do. No mentor here... Just researching a lot. Thanks!
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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A Rossi pipe will be fine starting out. They are made by Savinelli, and come in standard Savinelli shapes, and have all of the good smoking characteristics of Savs. A few MM cobs to give the briar pipe a rest might be good as well. Then when you have some experience, you can reward yourself with the Savinelli with a slightly fancier finish. Budget-wise, I suggest starting out with small quantities of tobacco, one tin or an ounce or two of bulk at a time, or a pouch. Don't buy in quantity since your tastes will change. Jar anything you don't like and try it in a year. Take is slow. Don't bury yourself in blends. You have to sort of learn each one.
 

craig61a

Lifer
Apr 29, 2017
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90% of what you read on the interwebs is opinionated BS…

Take some time to look at different shapes and brands to get a feel for what appeals to you.

If you are fortunate enough to have a brick and mortar store nearby, go there and look around and ask questions.

If your concern is budgetary foremost, get an inexpensive cob…
 

HawkeyeLinus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2020
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Iowa
I had never heard the Savinelli first pipe thing. Maybe grab an unsmoked estate with a nice chamber. I started with my Peterson Rathbone. A Barclay-Rex pot refurbished estate I got as my first used pipe turned out to be really good, probably should have started there - I think it was $50. Get what you like, get some good ideas about how to pack it and let it come to you!
 

HighlandRogue

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Dec 19, 2021
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I had never heard the Savinelli first pipe thing. Maybe grab an unsmoked estate with a nice chamber. I started with my Peterson Rathbone. A Barclay-Rex pot refurbished estate I got as my first used pipe turned out to be really good, probably should have started there - I think it was $50. Get what you like, get some good ideas about how to pack it and let it come to you!
A Peterson was the other "first pipe" option on the list. There are definitely a few appealing offerings there.
 

HighlandRogue

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Dec 19, 2021
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Florida, USA
A Rossi pipe will be fine starting out. They are made by Savinelli, and come in standard Savinelli shapes, and have all of the good smoking characteristics of Savs. A few MM cobs to give the briar pipe a rest might be good as well. Then when you have some experience, you can reward yourself with the Savinelli with a slightly fancier finish. Budget-wise, I suggest starting out with small quantities of tobacco, one tin or an ounce or two of bulk at a time, or a pouch. Don't buy in quantity since your tastes will change. Jar anything you don't like and try it in a year. Take is slow. Don't bury yourself in blends. You have to sort of learn each one.
I very much agree. I purchased single ounce bulk on 6 different tobaccos online and discovered a couple of things... I love 1Q and not a big fan of "whiskey" flavorings. I also like 7seas regular when I want something other than 1Q... I also got a couple Sutlif, like vanilla, that I also enjoy
 

HighlandRogue

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Dec 19, 2021
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Florida, USA
90% of what you read on the interwebs is opinionated BS…

Take some time to look at different shapes and brands to get a feel for what appeals to you.

If you are fortunate enough to have a brick and mortar store nearby, go there and look around and ask questions.

If your concern is budgetary foremost, get an inexpensive cob…
I did get a MM Country Gentleman straight pipe and do enjoy it more than the generic "wood" pipe that came with a gift starter set I received
 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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Side question... Is the 673 recommended to newbies because it's chunky and likely to take rookie abuse better than others? I'm speculating here of course...
There really isn't a newbie pipe, just go with personal preference. Liking a pipe goes a long way into staying interested in smoking it. Find one in your budget that appeals to you and smoke away.?
 

craig61a

Lifer
Apr 29, 2017
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Minnesota USA
I did get a MM Country Gentleman straight pipe and do enjoy it more than the generic "wood" pipe that came with a gift starter set I received
I had a few MM cobs years ago, I don't recall what happened to them... I still have a bunch of original Old Dominion cobs, about half of them unsmoked, which I enjoy from time to time. I see MM bought the manufacturing rights to Old Dominion recently.
 
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craig61a

Lifer
Apr 29, 2017
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As far as cheap briars go, there's Bones, which are an excellent value for the price, the newly made Kaywoodie's aren't bad either; real cheapniss: Falcon pipes. I only bought a few because my neighbor smoked one back in the 1960's. They're not bad though. And the the old geezer in the UB40 "Red Red Wine" video has a Falcon...