Even Low Intake Of Red & Processed Meat May Raise Death Risk

[BROBS]

Kind of scary!
here’s a fact-checked article:

Even a low intake of red and processed meat may raise death risk

Consuming just a small amount of red and processed meat could still pose a risk to health and affect longevity, according to new research.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

Damn, I had not considered this. Interesting read. Maybe it's time to rethink my diet.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Process food should be avoided that’s for sure. I try to limit my meat intake but will also say that beyond burger etc is really unhealthy too. Let’s alL try not to make the obituary pages prematurely... hard to enjoy your tobacco when you’re too stiff to operate a Bic.

 

[BROBS]

Process food should be avoided that’s for sure. I try to limit my meat intake but will also say that beyond burger etc is really unhealthy too. Let’s alL try not to make the obituary pages prematurely... hard to enjoy your tobacco when you’re too stiff to operate a Bic.

Unhealthy yet without cholesterol to ruin your circulatory System.

 

[lawdawg]

"Certain groups appeared to be more susceptible to specific meat types. For example, unprocessed red meat was “significantly” related to a risk of all-cause mortality for white people but not for black people. When the researchers looked specifically at the risk of cardiovascular disease mortality, they noted that this was only significant among women and black people."

Sounds like white men are in the clear to eat a steak without worrying too much about clogged arteries and heart disease, which has been the concern for years with red meat.

Though this article falls short of advocating veganism or vegetarianism, which recently has been rebranded as a "plant-based diet", there seem to be a lot of "scientific" information in recent years pushing in that direction, despite the obvious and readily-observable frailty of vegetarians, and our obvious canine teeth.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

Unhealthy yet without cholesterol to ruin your circulatory System.

Yes but with nearly as much saturated fat and totally processed. I can easily eat a vegetarian diet without all the fake meat products.

 

[mikethompson]

Lets see how long this one lasts

 

[BROBS]

"Certain groups appeared to be more susceptible to specific meat types. For example, unprocessed red meat was “significantly” related to a risk of all-cause mortality for white people but not for black people. When the researchers looked specifically at the risk of cardiovascular disease mortality, they noted that this was only significant among women and black people."

Sounds like white men are in the clear to eat a steak without worrying too much about clogged arteries and heart disease, which has been the concern for years with red meat.

Though this article falls short of advocating veganism or vegetarianism, which recently has been rebranded as a "plant-based diet", there seem to be a lot of "scientific" information in recent years pushing in that direction, despite the obvious and readily-observable frailty of vegetarians, and our obvious canine teeth.

Hahahaha canine teeth??? Compare your teeth to a meat eating animal they aren’t even close. Try to bite through the skin of a deceased animal. I dare you. ?

This argument has zero scientific basis and a biologist would tell you the same.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

So maybe today I won't buy 4 double cheeseburgers, eat them back to back, then take a 2 hour nap at my desk..

 

[puff_not_snuff]

So maybe today I won't buy 4 double cheeseburgers, eat them back to back, then take a 2 hour nap at my desk..

Just nap while standing and you’ll be fine...

 

[BROBS]

Yes but with nearly as much saturated fat and totally processed. I can easily eat a vegetarian diet without all the fake meat products.

You’re right that burger isn’t processed. ?

 

[BROBS]

Just nap while standing and you’ll be fine...

It works perfectly to sit in an office chair, face something like an email on the computer... cross your arms and sleep. Someone notices? BOOM you were reading an email.

though it kind of gives it away when they startle you and you jump.

 

[lawdawg]

Hahahaha canine teeth??? Compare your teeth to a meat eating animal they aren’t even close. Try to bite through the skin of a deceased animal. I dare you. ?

The oft-stated "deceased animal" comparison that vegetarianism advocates make is an apple-to-oranges comparison. No, we don't find unprocessed carcasses tasty because that's not what we've evolved to eat... the prevailing anthropological theory about the development of the brain in anatomically-modern and behaviorally-modern humans is that once our species harnessed fire, we were able to cook meat, and thereby increase our meat consumption, giving us the necessary fats and other nutrients to develop larger brains. The average jaw size of our species decreased proportionally as well. We've evolved to eat cooked meat and it has likely been a catalyst in the development of our species' intelligence.

 

[BROBS]

The oft-stated "deceased animal" comparison that vegetarianism advocates make is an apple-to-oranges comparison. No, we don't find unprocessed carcasses tasty because that's not what we've evolved to eat... the prevailing anthropological theory about the development of the brain in anatomically-modern and behaviorally-modern humans is that once our species harnessed fire, we were able to cook meat, and thereby increase our meat consumption, giving us the necessary fats and other nutrients to develop larger brains. The average jaw size of our species decreased proportionally as well. We've evolved to eat cooked meat and it has likely been a catalyst in the development of our species' intelligence.

Correct. Yet not longer needed just like flint spears and furs.

trust me. Our brains are no longer growing.

 

[Richmond B. Funkenhouser]

It works perfectly to sit in an office chair, face something like an email on the computer... cross your arms and sleep. Someone notices? BOOM you were reading an email.

though it kind of gives it away when they startle you and you jump.

It's the dreaded red mark on your forehead that gives you away, while desk sleeping.

 

[LOREN]

Giving up bacon double cheeseburgers to live longer? Hmmm, I'll have to think about it.

 

[BROBS]

It's the dreaded red mark on your forehead that gives you away, while desk sleeping.

Crossing your arms allows you to sleep sitting up for some crazy reason. It stabilizes you.

 

[puff_not_snuff]

It's the dreaded red mark on your forehead that gives you away, while desk sleeping.

Also the post it note stuck to your cheek.

 

[mso489]

Susceptibility seems to be the key, and there's no way to know that beforehand at present. Obviously, there are people who die at advanced ages even by today's standards who do the things that are supposed to shorten life -- cigarettes, red meat, alcohol. My dad was certainly a meat eater and he lasted 89 years and some months, and liked gin martinis into his 80's and smoked pipes and cigars most of his teens and adulthood. Still, you have to respect the statistics that say people who do these things, as a group, don't live as long. I think people who grow up eating mostly vegetables train their bodies, as some people who go vegetarian later carefully do. People can get in bad trouble doing vegetarian diets even with good advice. The species as a whole is omnivorous, so no meat means educated substitutions. You have to have proteins and fats another way.

 

[lawdawg]

Correct. Yet not longer needed just like flint spears and furs.

If you concede that we have literally evolved to become consumers of cooked meat as part of our diet, then I will consider the debate settled, at least as far as the evolutionary diet needs of homo sapiens goes.

There are plenty of moral arguments for vegetarianism / veganism, but the inescapable biological truth is that humans are omnivores, and the ideal diet will include some consumption of meat. Arguments that veganism is "healthier" for a person than a balanced omnivorous diet are basically propaganda.