An update on my previous post. I took delivery of the pipe and have been very pleased with it. Going to be one of my favourites from now on.
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A couple of weeks ago, I found this Charatan pipes shape chart. I don't know if it shows all models, but I think one can find the most of them.
This is so cool thank you!
Are there prescribed differences as to whether a pipe will get a 2/3/4 digit number?
I really appreciate the note on the bottom one mentioning that the first digit indicates the group size of the pipe! I have always wondered about that.
Are there prescribed differences as to whether a pipe will get a 2/3/4 digit number?
I really appreciate the note on the bottom one mentioning that the first digit indicates the group size of the pipe! I have always wondered about that.
The pictures I have downloaded from the homepage of a Danish pipemaker
called Eric Andersen. I don’t know, where he got them. He put them online as a tribute to Charatan One of the Fotos shows 6 beautiful Straight Grains and another one of course the world’s most valuable pipe the Summa Cum Laude” carved by Reuben charatan.
http://wwwhttp://www.andersenpipes.dk/mlcharatan.htm.andersenpipes.dk
http://www.andersenpipes.dk
Or do want to know in general, if there is a newer shape chart referring to the Dunhill-Russel-Dunhill eras?
@ Saintwilliam, Ken Barnes recently wrote something about a discussion that his father had with Barry Jones. The topic was the altering of he shape code to more numeric charakters, I recall. (I have to find the thread again). The first number indicates the size of the bowl, 1- 4 ok, but the last 3 digits ? ? The code system seems not to be logical or consistent. And further more, there are models which even have 5 numeric characters. On the other hand Charatan apparentl y also stamped shape codes, which were not listed in any shape chart. I have an old small smooth Zulu Special 160 with a tapered stem, but inall shape charts I have seen, the shape code for a Zulu is 1160, 260 or 67. And - as far as I know the “F.H” and “Made by Hand” stamped Charatans have no shape codes and are not listed in catalogues togerher with the “regular” pipes. Another confusing thing are the quality grades, because Herman Lane increases the number of the grades several rimes. so it may be e.g. that two Belvederes with the same shape b
number have in fact different qualities depending on the period they were made.
Here is an interesting “Charatan link”
to infos on shapes, quality grades and a price list from 1970
Estervals Pipe House
www.tecon-gmbh.de
Hi Kottan, thank you for the link! Reuben was dead some years before the first Summa Cum Laude was carved in 1971.
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I think you are right, jguss. Reuben died in 1962, so he couldn’t have carved the “summa Cum Laude”, and at that time Charatan’s make pipes were avaible in not that much quality grades until Hernan Lane introcuded more and more of them to puzzle the collectors. I mixed it up with the picture caption of this beauty, which was written by Tad Gage in his Lane/Charatan article 2003. ( ... carved by Reuben Charatan for Herman Lane).
CP-Gage - http://web.archive.org/web/20080517145923/http://www.pipeguy.com/cp-gage.htm
But also it can’t be manufactured in 1971 because it is already listed in the Charatan retail price list from 1970.
To serve the thread title, here is my red Charatan Belvedere 348 DC. It's a never smoked NOS. I'm unsure wether it is still Lane era or first Dunhill era.
To keep the thread alive I will show off my 'new' pre-Lane (before 1955) Charatan DE LUXE 73 (Salisbury). My daughter was so kind to take some photos from this Oldie.
Lovely bird's eye on the bowl! I think this pipe is from the mid- 60s. You can find the shape (81DC, GILPIN) in the Charatan flyers from 1964 and 1965. (Later it became the no 281DC/381DC/481DC).
Here is a part from the 1964 flyer
I’ve picked up a few in the last little while, here’s the least fancy but The one I juuuust love. 
I can't believe this thread has been dormant for so long.
A couple of Reuben era Cuttys
A couple of Reuben era Cuttys
A couple of Reuben era Bulldogs.
Although Charatan calls the bent Bulldog (shape 2109) a Rhodesian
Although Charatan calls the bent Bulldog (shape 2109) a Rhodesian
Then there is this little guy.
Absolutely no stamps or markings on the pipe or case.
I bought it from Ken Barnes who told me he thinks it was made by Frederick Charatan, given its shape and (small) size.
Unfortunately Ken is not around to confirm that now.
Absolutely no stamps or markings on the pipe or case.
I bought it from Ken Barnes who told me he thinks it was made by Frederick Charatan, given its shape and (small) size.
Unfortunately Ken is not around to confirm that now.
Thanks, Al.
The 2109 has a smaller bowl than the straight bulldog.
Both cuttys have small narrow bowls.
I'm not a fan of the later Lane era up-sized Charatans.