When Is Kentucky Not In Kentucky?

woodsroad · Jul 30, 2018

...and when is "a hint" of Perique just a half percent?

When they are making Rattray's, it seems!

jpmcwjr · Jul 30, 2018

So, according to the label, you cannot give it away.... Or loan it, or ogle it, or smoke it. You can only sell it in the US.....

sparroa · Jul 30, 2018

The Kentucky is probably African-grown and cured burley from Kentucky seed.
Like a more distant version of the Cuban or Connecticut seed grown elsewhere in the cigar world.
I'm not surprised if those old school recipes used such marginal amounts of perique since they are so subtle and the perique is so rare and costly in comparison to the other components...

hoosierpipeguy · Jul 30, 2018

Unless I'm missing something, Kentucky is a type of tobacco or a way of curing and has very little to do with being grown in Kentucky. The same for Virginia. Would be interesting to hear how this naming convention for the different tobacco types came to be.

warren · Jul 30, 2018

Too subtle woods, too subtle.

woodsroad · Jul 30, 2018

Kentucky Dark Fired comes from Kentucky, and nowhere else. There is Dark Fired made in Africa, but it’s a different beast.

hoosierpipeguy · Jul 30, 2018

The label on the tin you show only shows Kentucky, not Dark Fired Kentucky.

brooklynpiper · Jul 30, 2018

Well they couldn't fit all the words on the tin if they called it Dark Fired!

woodsroad · Jul 30, 2018

:rofl:

aquadoc · Jul 30, 2018

I think I am missing something. Rattray's is made in the EU. 99.5 % is foreign grown tobacco so why could the Kentucky not be from Kentucky?

thomasw · Jul 30, 2018

Hehe, woodsroad, you rock; thanks for the laugh

Btw, I don't recall a tobacco tin ever giving such a precise measure of its contents' mass. Most would label that quantity as 3,5 oz, not 3,53 oz.

woodsroad · Jul 30, 2018

Aquadoc, the lable is ambiguous. But it’s there for the US market, at the behest (and requirement) of the FDA. By “domestic”, they mean US. Clarity is not a desirable characteristic in regulatory writing!

cortezattic · Jul 31, 2018

~~The label says "Made in the EU", so I take it that .5% is grown in the EU.~~
On second thought, I really don't want to think about this.

jvnshr · Jul 31, 2018

I was thinking the same thing Cortez and then I realized what I don't want to think about, exactly like you

davek · Jul 31, 2018

Not familiar with the blend. I will say that, although I do like Perique, when I am making a homemade blend a pinch goes a long way.

woodsroad · Jul 31, 2018

My point being the free use of the word “Kentucky” to describe Dark Fired. Malawi Dark Fired is quite good. It’s just different than Kentucky Dark Fired.

mso489 · Jul 31, 2018

When they say a hint, they ain't just whistling Dixie.

woodsroad · Jul 31, 2018

MSO, that's a side issue for me, but you have to wonder how well distributed .5% of anything can be in a pipe tobacco blend. What would be the chance of loading a bowl and not getting any Perique?

jpmcwjr · Jul 31, 2018

It depends on the size of the cut, or how finely rubbed out. If very fine, the chances of some in a size 5 chamber is 54.3%. If the pieces are large, the value plummets to less than 10.7%.

woodsroad · Jul 31, 2018

John, I am highly impressed.

If you just made that up, don’t tell me.

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