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What's This?!?! A Bullk Royal Yacht Match Offering?!?!

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  1. ericusrex

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    I haven't tried it but I would be curious as to how close of a match it is, Royal Yacht has a pretty good nic hit to it and this is described as "medium" in strength. I wonder if they are talking about Strength in taste or nicotine content.

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    Nowhere in the world will such a brotherly feeling of confidence be experienced as amongst those who sit together smoking their pipes
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    We should pool together the funds for a pound and send some to Pipestud and Deathmetal for approval.

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    As a diehard Royal Yacht fan, I am very interested in this. Wonder how close it comes? If they don't use the right Virginias, it will be medium and taste more like Elizabethan Mixture, which is not bad either but it's not... quite... anywhere near as good as... the unstinting excellence of the 'Yacht.

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    If it doesn't have African Virginia's it ain't going to tickle the fancy.

    I just opened a tin that has to be 3to 4 years old. Amazing! I've only smoked a tin of Royal Yacht, I gathered some tins because I knew it was a favorite. The topping is out of this world, but I used to put to much into the topping, chocolate this, coffee that, tonquin bean maybe, etc. Now the topping seems to really befuddled me. People say "Plum" yea I guess so, as far as the tin note. But I don't think it's plum flavoring, The Virginias give the nuances of chocolate this, coffee that, tonquin bean maybe, the topping I think? Is liquified crack! That's what I'm going with and I'm sticking to it. Now don't get on here and beat me up about either. Royal Yacht may be the finest tobacco ever crafted. I can only wonder what the Original tasted like. Hopefully the new stuff is a shadow, at least.

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    thanks for the heads-up. I gotta try this at some point

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    As a diehard Royal Yacht fan, I am very interested in this. Wonder how close it comes? If they don't use the right Virginias, it will be medium and taste more like Elizabethan Mixture, which is not bad either but it's not... quite... anywhere near as good as... the unstinting excellence of the 'Yacht.

    Hey I like RY and Elizabethan, depends on the mood

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    You've got the wrong link. This one is the correct one: https://paylesscigarsandpipes.com/altadissutliff-match-royal-yuck-match-1-lb

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    Hmmm, if someone developed a Royal Yacht blend without all of the nicotine, would it still have the appeal? I'm not so sure that I smoke Royal Yacht for just the flavor. I mean it's ok... but without the reward of a mallet upside the head, would I still smoke it?
    It would be like setting through When Harry Met Sally for the 500th time with the wife, just to go straight to sleep afterwards. When Harry Met Sally is a good movie, but without a reward afterwards, I'm not so sure I'd watch it.

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    Will be if someone tries this and reports back.

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    It might be a pretty good aro blend, and it might remind me of RY, but I suspect the "matching" aspect is shaky. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

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    Since they matched it, what is the topping used. Please reveal. Please! I'm still going with crack, that's why it's "Secret".

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    yea I don't thinks its a really good match, its probably more off brand than anything, I once bough an adidas shirt at the flea market, come to find out it was fake, it was spelled wrong "adias" I think this is more like the royal yates, similar probably but it not close to match the real stuff.

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    I am highly doubtful based on the website that it is a very good match. I wondered what all the pontificating was about, but now I see they only sell it by the pound. No one wants to try an entire pound of poorly blended, not matched tobacco. The risk outweighs the possible benefits, methinks.

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    Hard to say, JimInks has given really positive reviews to their match blends, I've read alot of people prefer sutliffs elizabethian mixture to the new dunhill version, also the amphora match and edgeworth ready rubbed is supposed to be better than the lane's version. I just don't know if they have access to african Va's or not which is going to be the biggest factor.

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    I have tried a lot of Sutliff offerings, including the Seattle Pipe Club tobaccos made by them. I have not liked them.
    I wanted to try H & H's Fusilier Ration but decided against when I've learned that H & H are produced by Sutliff (don't know if it's true, or not).
    I am a BIG fan of RY but would not, based on my experience, even attempt a try.

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    The lesser strength is scaring most people off, as they perceive that this means it uses Virginias other than the killer empire Virginias in the 'Yacht.

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    I understand buying a match of a discontinued blend, but why would anyone buy a match for RY if they could buy the real thing? To save a few bucks? I suppose if someone smoked RY all day every day it might add up. The tobaccos are top-notch, the topping is mysterious, the blending is quality-controlled, as is the moisture at which it's tinned. And it comes in a real tin, not a foil-coated cardboard box with a plastic lid. Sounds way out of Sutliff's league. It's not a simple burley codger blend like ERR.

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    Maybe there is that one guy out of a hundred that loves the taste of Royal Yacht, but can't stand the effects of the nicotine. I mean it could happen. There may be that one weirdo. Like a guy who chooses to watch When Harry Met Sally, by himself. Phhhh, or is that just too far fetched to believe?
    Hmmmm, I did know a guy, a male... a man... who knew some of the words to Les Mis. I mean, I didn't really know him. I didn't... like... talk to him or anything. I just heard from somebody that the guy existed. Theoretically...

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    Well in theory the new Dunhill blends would be a match, as they're nothing like the original Dunhill blends

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    Shutterbug: Sutliff does not make the Royal Yacht Match. I e-mailed and asked.

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    Jim, this link says it is... https://paylesscigarsandpipes.com/altadissutliff-match-royal-yacht-match-1-lb
    But, it may be a mistake on this company's part. I've never heard of this company, Payless Cigars and Pipes.

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    Some of their prices are pretty amazing though. Many of their tin prices are several dollars less than the well known guys.

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    Cosmic: I just e-mailed my contact and sent him the link.

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    Thanks Jim, maybe this whole thing is just a big mistake.

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    Royal Yuck by the pound. That is my idea of hell on earth. I could see it now. "Mr. Condor we are exiling you to a desert island with two Falcon pipes and fifteen pounds of Royal Yuck match blend!'. I'd rather spend a night in Tijuana getting buggered by a midget in a Snow White costume wearing a barbed wire condom with my nut sack stapled to the floor before I tried either that stuff or the match blend.

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    My contact at Sutliff said they don't make it. He said it's a possibility they used to make it, and he said he'd check the files to see if they ever did. I know that when I did my reviews of Sutliff Match blends in 2014, they were not making it, or I would have gotten it for review. As a great many of Sutliff's matches were close to the originals, if they had made it, it might have been close. Who knows? They've made many of the best Match blends on the market, despite what the snobby Sutliff slammers think.

    Here's a link to my Match reviews.

    http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/jims-sutliff-match-reviews

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    http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-tobacco-matches-at-payless-pipes

    So how did no one else remember the prior thread that addressed this.

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    Cosmic: my contact at Sutliff sez, "The only item I see we made close to that name was Royal Scott. I see a bunch of Royal – stuff like Royal Viking, but not Yacht." He did allow for the fact that perhaps it was made and sold under a another name.

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    Did Altadis get bought out by Sutliff?

    How are they listing a tobacco with both the Altadis and Sutliff name on it and not getting shite for misrepresentation?

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    Altadis used to own Sutliff. In 2013, MacBaren bought Sutliff from Altadis.

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    Thanks, that doesn't really quell any of the mystery of this. It especially doesn't make me want to buy something that may have sat around in a bulk bag for three or four years.

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    They've made many of the best Match blends on the market, despite what the snobby Sutliff slammers think.

    I find Sutliff's ERR match much closer* to the original than Lane's...which is really a reintroduction not a match, as Lane apparently owns the rights to the original recipe.

    *I think it's due to the cut being closer to what I remember, which influences the smoking properties

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    Shutterbug: it's more than that. The Sutliff Match has more molasses than the Lane version does, and is almost the same amount as the original ERR. The Lane version has more cocoa than the original ERR, and lacks that mild sharp note that the original and the Sutliff Match has. Lane said they used the original recipe, but having directly compared it to the original ERR, I taste enough differences to say Lane's is not the same. Sutliff also uses the correct cut, which Lane does not.

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