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What Shape is this? (Denmark)

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  • Started 3 months ago by donjgiles
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  1. donjgiles

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    I snagged what I think might be an old made in Denmark Pipe Dan off the bay last night, what shape is this? Egg, acorn?

    Thank you,
    Don

    Posted 3 months ago #
  2. bnichols23

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    Hmm. I'd call it more an acorn, but....

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    I think so as well, kinda..
    Thank you!

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    Ubet. I'm probably wrong, but I like being that way on occasion. Gives me humility, some say greatly needed!

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    Any markings?

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    On the top of the shank
    Iwan Ries
    Danish

    On the bottom of the shank
    Made in Denmark
    220

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    It's a Danish shape. I can't keep track of all of the shape names and variants. I call shapes like this "Danish" and move on. But that's me and I'm an idiot most days.

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    Ash, you are being a little too hard on yourself. I agree with you.
    I have an issue of getting wrapped up in minutia.

    Don

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    Don, if it's an Iwan Ries pipe, I'd say it was not made by PipeDan.

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    I'm probably wrong, but I like being that way on occasion. Gives me humility, some say greatly needed!

    Humility is over rated....

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    I first thought Dublin, because of the conical bowl, but on consideration, I think acorn is probably nearer the mark. Shapes are so tricky. When in doubt, I give the pipe maker the say. My wife gave me a Johs with an extra large bowl which I saw as a brandy, but I eventually found the enclosure that came with the pipe, and Johs said it was an apple, so an apple it is. My wife spent a lot of her working career in NYC, so I call it my Big Apple. Iwan Ries sources excellent house pipes, currently by Genod I believe. I'm enjoying some earlier IR house pipes made by Benton from Algerian briar. I used to jokingly call them Chicago Dunhills, but they are superb smokers, perhaps better than some much more expensive pipes. They may be the best U.S. factory pipes I own.

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  12. npod

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    Don, I have some down time and wanted to noodle around on this post a bit. It's a good excuse to procrastinate!

    I love Ashdigger's comment above^^^. Most "Danish" shapes are just "Danish", hard to define, but you know it when you see it.

    Your pipe is a classic Danish shape, NOS (Not Otherwise Specified). There are many variations based on the general "classic" Sixten Ivarsson Pewit shape. Over time the Pewit led to the acorn, egg, pear, potato sack, etc. Some of it is based on what the carver calls it, others on an interpretation. Personally, I see a lot of estate Danish pipes like the one you posted called a "slightly bent Dublin", NOS. I would favor the later in your case. Great pipe! It's a classic estate Danish specimen to enjoy.

    The Classic Ivarsson Pewit shaping [named from the marketing, "as big as a pewit egg"]

    Variations and modern siblings:

    Mortensen, bent Dublin (DPS)

    Stokkebye Pear (SPC)

    Stanwell Featherweight (SPC)

    Stanwell bent egg (DPS)

    Lasse Skovgaard Sandblasted Acorn (SPC)

    Stanwell pear (SPC)

    Tom Eltang Acorn (SPC)

    Neal
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    I would personally lean toward acorn on this, or egg corn as some like to say.

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    I have seen that shape listed as a bent Dublin. But I think npod nailed it with his NOS post.

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    Fine illustrations, Neal. The last one seems to be indisputable as to shape: It looks like an acorn, and Mr. Eltang called it so. Some of the others, not so much. But the "featherweight" is also pretty solid, unless it weighs over 50 grams.

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    First off, I see Dublin as a Family category, and acorns, zulus, skates, and such as being subcategories of the Dublin. Just as a Rhodesian is a subcategory of the bulldog genre. It can be both a bulldog and rhodesian. I see this example as being both an acorn and Dublin in the same way.

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    I was going to say pear (the bowl is a little tall to classify as an acorn to me), but like most things we discuss here, it's purely for the fun of discussion and doesn't have a lot of bearing on anything real. So I guess I'd really be in npod's camp-- it's Danish, no additional classification necessary.

    If you really wanted to know, you might call the folks at Iwan Ries. I understand they have some folks who have been working there a long time, and might be able to direct your inquiry as to what the maker called it.

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    Wow Neal,

    I am blown away at your response, thank you!
    I saw a real beautiful pipe under that dirt and grime last night, so I will show you what I end up with once she is cleaned.
    I am on a quest to find the absolute best smoking pipes I can afford... which is not very much. I have found some ignored house pipes to be very high level pipes from very famous makers at crazy affordable prices. FUN!!!

    I also want a collection that shows respect to the innovators, or at least the trends they started.

    That little, dirty, slightly bent Dublin, NOS has some killer, tight (old) grain on it. This is the same type of grain I find on Jarl pipes, another of my passions. I can't wait until it arrives. I do so love pipe smoking and all it encompasses!

    Don

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    In case anyone noticed, my autocorrect spelled Peewit as Pewit.

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  20. sablebrush52

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    Not all Danish shapes are Danish. Barling was producing this shape since the 1940's. This particular one is from the early 1950's:

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    This variant is one of my favorite pipes. It's a Lasse Skovgaard Danish freehand.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    Sable, I'd still refer to that as a Danish....because I'm lazy and a professional miscreant.

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  23. npod

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    As a follow up, here is a great example on this topic. https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/estate/denmark/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=290030

    Notice the wording that SP.com (Rachel DuBose) uses to describe the pipe as an "Acorn-esque shape". So true. I love the -esque suffix. BTW, this is a great pipe for someone looking to jump in to Danish estates.

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    After a quick clean.

    Don

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    Bravo!

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  26. donjgiles

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    Thank you... unfortunately after it was clean, I found a crack. Booo. That is 2 in 2 weeks. The other was on a super rare Savinelli. In both cases I am pretty sure both the sellers (ebay) were not aware of the cracks as they were hidden by grime.

    The rare pipe is a Savinelli Punto Oro Corallo di Mare in a shape 130 KS and even with the crack I am super glad to have it and add it to my Corallo collection.

    Don

    Posted 3 months ago #

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