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  1. them4chef

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    Hey guys so I bought this peterson silver spigot in an auction. Description was excellent condition. After waiting a month it finally arrived today. The pipe is beautiful and I love the size yet it's fairly light and beautifully sand blasted. Only problem is there is a split in the shank under the silver cap. The buyer has offered to return my money but I love this pipe and haven't found another available. I think I can fix it with a small jb weld patch plus some thin CA glue to prevent it from spreading. I got it for 100usd so wasn't overly expensive. I just don't want to pay to send it back lol what would you do

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    Other wiser folks can weigh in here, but I wouldn't take the risk.

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    cosmetic, i wouldn't worry about. but that's at rather important functional location. maybe someone has better suggestion than i.

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    Looks like the sterling band will keep it together. I would not glue it.

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  5. rdavid

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    I'm guessing the stem/tenon is still snug in the shank? Thinking I would just leave it alone of it's still a solid join.

    And damn, that's a beautiful pipe. Hopefully it's a keeper.

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    I agree the spigot will keep it sound. I would fill the split with glue to help support and prevent more splitting.

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    The pipe is solid, I was just unimpressed to see the crack. It seals fairly well, I'm not sure if it's supposed to be an air tight seal with this style of military mount.

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    If it's still solid, I'd keep it and smoke the hell out if it. I doubt the crack would spread. Besides, that's what those bands are there for, to reinforce the shank against splitting, so it looks like it's done its job. I'd just keep an eye on it.

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    I agree that metal band looks like it is doing its job, nothing to worry about. Now if you start to see daylight through the crack, well, then you have a problem.

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    Thanks guys, I'm going to keep it. I freaking love everything about the pipe other than the crack lol.

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    Not sure id be happy with it for 100$

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    ^^^^^ Yeah, it's not exactly in excellent condition. Maybe renegotiate the price or if your ok with it then no worries.

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    I honestly don't think I'd give it much worry. As said above, the band is doing it's job, and many similar cracks on band-less pipes are repaired or reinforced with (you guessed it) a band. You could seal the crack, just to ease your mind, but I'm not sure it's necessary. Lovely pipe, by the way.

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    I cleaned and smoked it tonight. I really love it.

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    Just don't use much pressure when attaching the stem, or you might split the shank as well as the sterling olive. Assuming you don't smoke it heavily, and give the shank time to dry out, you'll probably be okay. Otherwise, the crack could likely grow over time.

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    ^ just be careful with it and it should be fine

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    Especially if you have a number of other pipes so it would only be smoked in rotation, I'd keep it, smoke it, and take the gamble. People blow a hundred bucks on a disappointing meal out or in a card game all the time, and this pipe could be perfectly fine over years. As risks go, this is minimal.

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    leave it, no glue, nice pipe for 100 smackers

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    Just curious if someone was to repair that crack, what would be used? My first thought would be superglue (cyanoacrylate) but I believe it's highly toxic, especially when heated.

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    I would definitely not use ca. I don't know what to use, but I know what not to use.

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    I've heard of some pipe repairs being made with briar dust but that would require some type of adhesive base to mix with. Just curious what would be safe and durable enough to fill a crack like that.

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    Enjoy! I'd also leave it be, and use a touch more care than a "normal" pipe. There may be a slight gap that lets air through the juncture, so it doesn't need to be 100% airtight.

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  23. gerryp

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    I like that pipe! I was just eyeballing some sandblasted Petes the other day.

    I'm no expert on pipe grading, but I have a hunch that any pipe with a crack like that, whether it's superficial or otherwise, would knock it down a notch or two below the "excellent" category. I've seen pipes on Ebay that were described as being in great condition but looked like they had been used to drive nails.

    Anywho, Titebond II and III wood glues are FDA approved for "indirect food contact" and aren't supposed to give off toxic fumes. I read a suggestion a while back (can't remember where offhand) that mentioned making a pipe repair paste by mixing some sawdust with wood glue. I think this would be easier to work with than JB Weld or other epoxy.

    If I was in your shoes that crack would drive me nuts, so I'd be willling to try Titebond III/sawdust since the crack is well above the bowl and it's a mostly cosmetic repair.

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    OK. Yeah, I was actually thinking earlier TiteBond would probably be safe. Especially in a location like that that won’t see direct flame or high heat. Makes sense. Thanks Gerry.

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    Very nice pipe! Enjoy!

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    Is Titebond gap filling? It's not much of a gap, but most wood glues need clamping to be effective. JB Weld is temperature tolerant, really unneeded here, but epoxy has very good gap filling effectiveness while maintaining high adhesive values. It's extremely easy to use, mix 50/50 to a uniform color and work in the crack. Clean up with a Q-tip dipped in acetone. Vinegar works for clean up, too, just note as effective or fast like acetone.

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    Edit: change note to not-- Embers is watching

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    Is Titebond gap filling?

    Cranse, no I don't think glue alone would work. That's where the sawdust comes in. I haven't tried it but I figure if you make the paste the right consistency it should stay in place, like wood filler. It doesn't have to handle the stress that would be applied to a joint.

    EDIT: I put the topic in the Googler and saw this article first. Woodworking sites have posts about it too:
    https://www.thespruce.com/homemade-wood-filler-1822282

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    Them4Chef - I'd keep the pipe; but only long enough to take another $100, and put it and the pipe into a box, and send it to me. Be sure to include an apology letter about the anomaly; that, along with an SASE. I'll send you back a thank-you note. - Sherm Natman

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    Lol thanks you guys, I've smoked it a few times now and outs actually am incredible smoker. Honestly better than my dunhills lol

    I emailed peterson and they said not to worry that the silver ferrule will keep it in check. since I've had the pipe here in the moisture rich environment of coastal british columbia, the crack has actually shrunk/ the briar has taken on some moisture.

    The ebay seller also refunded 40usd so I'm content with the deal and the pipe as it is.

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  31. rdavid

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    The ebay seller also refunded 40usd so I'm content with the deal and the pipe as it is.

    Doesn't get much better than that. Glad it's working out.

    I did learn a bunch about potential pipe repair methods in the process. Thinking the Titebond and sawdust mixture would be applicable here if I was to run into a similar situation. Thanks.

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