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Vauen Worth the Money?

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  1. pleiades

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    I'm a newby to pipes, so I don't have a good feel of what is a good price vs what is a silly price. So is a Vauen Regent pipe worth $150 new? Or is that a clueless newby would make?

    Thanks!

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  2. puffinbilly

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    Hi Pleadies,

    They sell for about a 100 Euros here in Germany.

    German site

    I always buy a pipe I have held in my hands and I like, it really dosen't matter who it's made by or what it costs. I have never bought one on-line. Shop around a bit and with §150 in your pocket you will find yourself a great pipe.

    Bill

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    Hi Pleadies and welcome to PM Forums!

    I don't own one, but have friends who do and all are pleased with their Vauen pipe(s).

    I must say (since you asked) that I do find the Regent with the rubber rings and the coated shiny finish a bit off putting for my tastes and preferences.

    Vauen pipes are made to fit a 9 mm Vauen filter, so if you do pull the trigger on a Vauen, you might want to also order some extra filters, or check into a Vauen adapter which allows the pipe to be smoked without the filter.

    SmokingPipes.Com, Pipes & Cigars, 4 Noggins and other PM Forums sponsors all sell Vauen pipes, priced between $50 to well over $200.

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  4. mso489

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    pleidades, I would reflect a little on the filter aspect of Vauen. Nothing wrong with it if you specifically
    want a filter. You might try both filtered and unfiltered Missouri Meerschaums to see the difference and
    learn if you want to start with a filtered pipe. I would shop a lot of pipes, some in person if possible, to
    get the idea of what is available. It seems to me it is easier to start with an unfiltered pipe, and maybe
    relatively mild tobaccos, and go from there, but that's just my opinion.

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  5. pleiades

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    Thanks for the advice! That's kinda what I thought... I'll keep my money local

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    Most of the smokers here can buy any pipe as an Estate because they know pipes. I don't so I agree with Billy/Deutschland and I need to hold them, feel them, & then buy them.

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    Vauens are FANTASTIC pipes! I own several and they are of exceptional German craftsmanship - the drilling is precise to the last nanometer. If they were more readily available in North America, I'd have a MUCh larger collection.

    Re: Filter ... all Vauen pipes come with an insert that precisely fits the tenon and mortise, such that you have a choice of either using a filter, or the insert (makes it a filter-less pipe).

    Suffering from a serious case of "EPARD", also known as the Estate Pipe Acquisition and Restoration Disorder.
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    I have heard so many German stories about Vauen that I would advice you: just spend some more money and buy yourself a Pete or Stanwell. An upcoming trademark is Rattray's...they make fantastic pipes for reasonable prices. If it must be a German pipe: take a look in the catalogue of Design Berlin.

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    I had a nice one some years back, loved it. Sadly I dropped it in the lake and it sank like the Bismarck.

    John
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    I unnecessarily browsed some pipe porns and have fallen in love with this gorgeous pair of Frauen, I mean Vauen:

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    I have a vauen and took the filter out I like it. I haven't had any complaints bowl stays cool during a smoke.

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    Never tried them but nice looking. What's that white spot doing there? Dunhill envy?

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    Instead, VAUEN has a longer pipe making history than Dunhill does.
    According to Pipedia:

    In the 1920s, VAUEN had taken out a trademark on a white dot on the mouthpiece for Germany and Austria, at the same time that Dunhill had done the same for the international market. The companies ended up in court with the result that Dunhill may use the white dot internationally, whereas VAUEN may use it only in Germany and Austria and has to use a differently-coloured dot for all other markets. They have used light blue and grey dots internationally since then. The white or coloured dot denotes the higher quality pipes of VAUEN; the lower-end pipes are only marked by the VAUEN imprint on the stem.

    http://pipedia.org/wiki/VAUEN

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    Pretty amazing pipe makers will go to court over a simple dot on the stem lol but if it's felt
    It's trademark... Makes sense to.

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    I have a Vauen Auenland Hugg (rustic finish churchwarden). Very nice pipe and smokes great (and cool).

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    I do have a Vauen and Dr. Perl. Both are very nice and cool smoker.

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    I have five Vauen pipes and they're all great.

    If you don't like the filter just don't use it, I never use the adapter either so I still wonder why they make them in the first place.
    I do like to use pipe cleaners in the filter slot to keep tobacco bits out of my mouth and reduce gurgle.

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    Vauen pipes are great. German's build great stuff.

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    You have to hand it to the Germans to make quality stuff at a fair price. If you compared a Vauen pipe to pipes of the same price range made by other producers, you will see the obvious quality difference.

    Life would go on as it had always gone on - that is, badly.
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    I have 1 Vauen pipe, purchased it estate and it is a great smoker. I like 9mm filter and slowly I am moving towards having all my pipes, except MM, to be 9mm

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    The Dunhill vs. Vauen dispute over the use of the dot trademark reminds us of how large and therefore competitive the tobacco pipe market was at one time. That's the explanation (I think) for all the various stingers, carburetors, systems, filters and other unique characteristics on pipes that don't seem necessary. There was a gold rush to get customers to buy a particular brand of pipe and feel only that pipe could deliver the enjoyment sought. Many of these patented and trademarked pipes are still with us in one form or another.

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    If you don't like the filter just don't use it, I never use the adapter either so I still wonder why they make them in the first place.

    I'm of the same opinion. I like a very wide open draw, and some of my favorite pipes are filtered. Just remove the filter and it's perfect. The adapters make no sense to me and appear to serve only to constrict the draw.

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    Oddly enough, since I started drilling out the airways on various pipes I have noticed that Vauen tends to use a much smaller diameter than most. It's quality stuff, especially for the pipes under $100, just a bit different from what you'll find on most other makers.
    For what it's worth though, I didn't particularly care for the first eight months I was using the pipes before I started measuring.

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  24. chasingembers

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    I have two of their Auenland Shire churchwardens, and love them. Finances permitting, I hope to have one of each of the Vauenland styles, especially the cherrywood-like Doran.

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    About the white spot: I recall that Dunhill sued them and Vauen, who lost the trial, had to paint their spots gray from there on. Personally I was never inspired by their pipes but I'm sure that they smoke well.

    Thomas
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    I have 2 Vauens. Both Auenland, 1 Eron (rusti)c, 1 Gilg (polished)
    I adore them. I carved a stand for them. Everyday I do a little prayer ... no, no, that one was a joke.
    They smoke really well.
    Part of it is totally my own delusion I believe.
    I listen to LOTR music and feel like having a break from real life and resting in the Shire.
    I smoke tobaccos from Middle Earth Series (Longbottom Leaf, Old Toby) from JustforHim. It's really nice, with a little tea or some beer.

    That being said, the delusion aside, I think they smoke really well and cool

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  27. papajoe

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    I have 1 Vauen luxus pipe, purchased it estate on eBay and it is a great smoker. One of my favorites.

    "Cigarettes are to be smoked, Cigars to be enjoyed but pipes are to be savored"
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  28. reniaeats

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    It may be blasphemy to say it here, but I've found Vauens to be the most consistent of the larger name pipes, if you're in the $100-$200 range. They are more consistently perfect than Petersons for sure. You might look at the Rustic Olafs, which retail where I work for under $100 but have a similar look to the one you mentioned.

    Also, I wouldn't recommend taking the filter out without using the adapter. People say they do it all the time, but I've seen problems with doing that. The $4 investment in an adapter is well worth it, if you want to smoke a Vauen filterless. If you're going to smoke it with a filter, consider using the Castleford filters instead of the Dr. Perl ones. I like those better.

    Renia
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    That's an interesting comment about adapter use Renia. I have to wonder if it isn't simply a matter of the chamfer on the inlet on the stem?
    I was playing with my Ferndown Churchwarden stem yesterday (it was drilled to 1/8" through all but the last few inches toward the stem, that just won't do. I pulled it off flawlessly thank goodness), and while the stem was still straight after clearing out the bore I noticed that I could almost get it to make a popping noise from fast air movement. Then I chamfered the tenon end of the airway and the effect was greatly reduced.
    It's hard to notice on shorter stems but I have to wonder if turbulence like that isn't what the adapters are designed to reduce, in which case all I need to do to get my filter pipes running properly is make sure to clean up the rim of the inlet inside the filter chamber.
    I just checked a few of my spare Vauen stems and there is definitely a sharp edge on the air channel at the back of the filter compartment.

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    Also, concerning the filters. I find the Vauen filters entirely too restrictive by default, but if you pop them open and dump half the carbon pellets they're very nice.
    I keep thinking I should make a washable carbon pellet holder so that you could crush Aquarium Pellets for use in the filter space in a pipe.

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    keep thinking I should make a washable carbon pellet holder so that you could crush Aquarium Pellets for use in the filter space in a pipe.

    You could just put them inside the chamber?

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  32. pipebuddy

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    Yes, as Renia said, smoking a 9mm filtered pipe without the filter is a bad idea. That big fricking void created will have a very negative impact on the overall enjoyment of smoking. I've tried it (I had bought a 9mm without knowing it and the pipe had no filter) and the smoke was almost wet, if you can envision that. Beurk.

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    Reniaeats, I agree with with completely.

    Many Vauens can be picked up as estates if you are concerned about price.

    I have a good number of nice pipes anymore, but Vauens smoke as well as any of the production pipes I have. I have a couple of Vauen Churchwardens that are great. I do not own a Regent however.

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    Hey guys,

    I am still quite new to all of it and some technicalities elude me.
    So you are saying that smoking a 9mm pipe (the ones with the big holes in which you can easily put the tip of your little finger in, right?) one should always use a filter in them? Is that right ?

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    I'm not sure why anyone would think that removing the filter is in itself harmful to the experience.
    Whatever goes wrong with a filterless 9mm filter pipe should also appy to large bent pipes, system pipes and especially the Reverse Calabash, which is practically the same thing.
    Someone is going to have to explain why an expansion chamber in the airway is a generally bad idea, otherwise we have lots of great pipemakers pointing the other way.

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  36. pylorns

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    Wow, this is an old thread, but I find my Vauen to be very consistent smoker.

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    Frozen I totally agree. More often than not I smoke 9mm Lorenzetti's with a new filter, but sometimes when I'm out and about I don't have a filter and smoke it wide open with no noticeable difference. I always run a cleaner through after a smoke, so the pipe can dry faster.

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    I see some guys are comparing Stanwell and Vauen .
    Well i have a Stanwell and it's horrible.
    I am not sure it's the drought hole or birar quality but my pipe burns too hot and tobacco usually taste badly in it.
    In other side Vauen is famous to user advance German technology so i guess quality check is well and probably same pipe bahve similarly unlike stanwell which you get a good or bad pipe by chance!

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    I have a Vauen Luxus 6813 1/4 Bent Dublin (9mm Filter) with P-Lip bought as estate from Blue Room Briars, excellent pipe, one of my favorites...I use it with the insert and not filter.

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    On my list of pipes I want to buy (as well as Savinelli, Dunhill, Davidoff, Bekler meerschaum, and a Castello).

    Posted 1 year ago #
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    I have two of their Auenland Shire churchwardens, and love them. Finances permitting, I hope to have one of each of the Vauenland styles, especially the cherrywood-like Doran.

    I actually did end up getting the Doran.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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