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Tom Hanks Portrayal of Walt Disney Lacks Authenticity

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  1. eaglerico

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    Apparently to prevent the movie from getting an "R" rating, and the fact that smoking is not an currently held Disney Co. value, it was necessary to be historically inaccurate for Tom Hanks to not smoke is his upcoming movie where he portrays Walt Disney. This is disturbing to me on a deep level. I constantly see violent films with only PG-13 status and yet smoking gets an R rating. Apparently they also forgot about there smoking characters from Walt Disney's time at the movie studio.

    http://tv.yahoo.com/daytime/dint-tom-hanks-shares-historic-200442374.html

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    What a shame. The movie looks interesting, but I heard it hasn't rec'd great reviews.

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    I have stopped being enamored of Tom Hanks, he lives in rairified air like the rest of The Rat Pack, and No not the Deno Pack, He supports the WWII Museum in New Orleans so maybe I should not be so critical of him, it's just sad how they turn out.

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    This is disturbing to me on a deep level. I constantly see violent films with only PG-13 status and yet smoking gets an R rating

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    The really idiotic thing is that if they really cared about educating kids against smoking, they could have shown Walt Disney chainsmoking cigarettes and made a point of the fact he died from lung cancer.

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    I can't imagine the smoking would be the only reason it would have an R. The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings films were PG-13 and they have violence and smoking. Maybe it's because they are fantasy creatures.....

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    "Hey kids, smoking BAD!! But censorship and pandering is good!!"

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    I wondered about that after seeing an ad for the new movie, and looked up Walt's Wikipedia entry. According to that, Walt was always careful not to be observed smoking around children - evidently, his smoking habit was a private indulgence, suitable for adults but not his target audience.



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    Doesn’t bother me much they left the smoking part out, its movies after all. I have read SEVERAL things about Walt I bet they leave out of the movie. Nowthe reason they left it out being it gets them a lighter rating for audiences that is ridiculous. Smoking put on the same list as blood, guys, nudity , and extreme violence. That makes sense!

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    This is just pathetic. So Casablanca would be rated R released today?

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    eagle: Surely you are jesting. It's a movie, not a history lesson. Hollywood doesn't do history with any real degree of accuracy any more than television does. Movies are for entertainment and/or propagandizing. In spite of what the salaried players would like you to believe, movies are flights of fancy.

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    Disney is such a monolithic corporation, I don't think any realistic depiction of Walt Disney could ever be done,
    with or without the pipe smoking. I would recommend that people take their kids to our national parks and
    do only a light dose or skip the Disney theme parks. Cultivate childrens' imaginations, not the Disney till.

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    I wondered about that after seeing an ad for the new movie, and looked up Walt's Wikipedia entry. According to that, Walt was always careful not to be observed smoking around children - evidently, his smoking habit was a private indulgence, suitable for adults but not his target audience.

    If that were true, then Disney wouldn't have portrayed any of his characters as smoking. However, many many characters smoked in Disney's films, including Merlin smoking a pipe in "Sword in the Stone", Goofy smoking cigarettes, Pinocchio smoking a pipe, and even John and Michael (children) smoking a peace pipe in "Peter Pan".

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    Can anyone buy the kid glove treatment Walt will get in this movie? I hate biopics generally because they usually try too hard to be gentle to the subject and too much artistic license gets carried out when filing in blanks and create dialogue.

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    Personally, I don't really care for Tom Hanks. For some reason, he annoys me.

    You never go FULL RETARD man! NEVER!

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    If that were true, then Disney wouldn't have portrayed any of his characters as smoking. However, many many characters smoked in Disney's films, including Merlin smoking a pipe in "Sword in the Stone", Goofy smoking cigarettes, Pinocchio smoking a pipe, and even John and Michael (children) smoking a peace pipe in "Peter Pan".

    Point taken. It was a Wikipedia article, after all, so I'd need further citations to buy into it entirely. I'd also mention Roger, the lead (human) male in "101 Dalmatians", who also smoked a pipe.

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    At least Mr Hanks notices that this removal of smoking in movies is bad. Maybe if more actors start to share his opinion we can bring it back on screen. Though the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit films as mentioned previously do bring me hope that we can look forward to seeing pipes on screen.

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    It is colossally asinine.

    It was extremely difficult to find a photo of Walt Disney smoking a pipe when we published a piece on him.

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    I just saw a screener of this upcoming movie and was stunned to see the scene where Walt did lines of coke off a hooker's ass while he was dressed in a Captain Hook costume. He never lit up once though.

    Ok, I am bullshitting.

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    Why does this not surprise me? I liked him a whole lot in Saving Private Ryan, but this does not excuse the rewriting of history. LMFAO peck
    "... off a hooker's ass". Priceless.

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    You had me going for a moment, Peck!

    I don't personally like Tom Hanks, but he sure looks a lot like Walt. I can't remember ever seeing Disney smoking when I was a kid.

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    His park used to have a tobacco shop and release their own (?) pipes. Every now and then I find Disney pipes on eBay and end up bailing cuz they just don't LOOK worth the money they sometimes go for.

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    We watched the finale of "Sons of Anarchy" the other night on television. One character was killed with a cooking fork stuck repeatedly into her head. It was one of the most violent and disturbing scenes we've watched on television OR the movies (and I'm generally not adverse to violence of horror).
    Smoking a cigarette gets an "R" rating...yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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    At least Mr Hanks notices that this removal of smoking in movies is bad.

    Can anyone buy the kid glove treatment Walt will get in this movie? I hate biopics generally because they usually try too hard to be gentle to the subject and too much artistic license gets carried out when filing in blanks and create dialogue.

    There is that - I heard a radio interview yesterday about the film, with Mr. Hanks talking about feeling like there should have been something else going on in a lot of scenes - "smoking cigarettes, arguing over storyboards, that sort of thing." Sounded almost like he felt like a prop much of the time...

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    This is good for PIPE smoking though. If a lit and inhaled cig = and R rating, maybe we'll see more pipes in films. LOTR and Holmes had plenty but were both PG-13.

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