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Time for an Artisan Pipe ?

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  1. aro222

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    Hey guys I’m in need of some advice.
    I absolutely love my savinelli pipes, in fact 75% of my collection are sav’s. However I am interested in stepping out of the box and away from the classic shapes and attaining my first artisan pipe.
    Would love some recommendations so I can begin my research.
    Thanks

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  2. jpmcwjr

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    An "artisan pipe" is more often a traditional or "classic" shape than other. And many other shapes are made in factories or large shops. So, need to hear more what you have in mind.

    Ryan Alden and Scotty Piersal make excellent pipes, and can - and probably would- make a pipe to order that's far from classical.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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  3. aro222

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    I apologize
    What I meant was a pipe that is not mass produced in a warehouse. Like a Peterson or savinelli
    I thought that is what artisan meant
    My mistake. Still learning

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  4. carolinachurchwarden

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    Well, there's always Mark Tinsky. And if you really want to step way outside the box, you could always try a John Inge pipe. He's got some fantastical designs and others that are within the traditional style.

    "If you can't send money, send tobacco." - George Washington

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    An "artisan pipe" is more often a traditional or "classic" shape than other.

    That's a shame.

    @aro222

    Have you looked at Preben Holm or the Danish era Ben Wade pipes. These came from now retired Bruce Weaver, but his pieces are still out there as well.

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    Aro, the way to be successful here is to figure out what kind of pipe you want, figure out who makes that kind of thing, and then talk to a few carvers about it. Establish a price point for yourself (which will eliminate carvers in tiers above AND below the price point) and find someone whose work resonates with you.

    Most carvers charging in around 300 dollars for "ordinary" pipes are making very, very good quality stuff. Above that you are paying for really fine work, certain tailored perfections, certain finishes etc. Below that you are talking to someone who may or may not have their act totally together in terms of making pipes. Not to say you can't get a good 200 dollar pipe from an artisan, but you'll see a fairly large shift in quality as you head toward 300 USD amongst american carvers, anyhow.

    When people kick tires on my work at this point, I usually ask them what they want, what they like, I get them to send me pictures of pipes they like and if it's stuff I don't want to or can't make, I generally direct them to people who do that kind of thing. Matching up the pipe with the carver will get you your best results here.

    The hope is that you get a pipe so great that you want to throw away everything else you've ever smoked. It may or may not go down that way, but if you get a really well made pipe, it will be objectively better than a Savinelli in just about every way - comfort, briar, smoking.. all of it.

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    I apologize
    What I meant was a pipe that is not mass produced in a warehouse. Like a Peterson or savinelli
    I thought that is what artisan meant
    My mistake. Still learning

    Not a problem; no apology needed at all. Most of us are still learning something or other!

    I meant to convey only that artisan was not equivalent to non-classic shapes; and that Danish or other freeform styles are also made in warehouses, etc.

    But I am biased, in that all my artisan pipes are classic shapes, except for one Danish I got long ago.

    Re-read what Sasquatch writes above!

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  8. chasingembers

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    Aro, the way to be successful here is to figure out what kind of pipe you want, figure out who makes that kind of thing, and then talk to a few carvers about it. Establish a price point for yourself (which will eliminate carvers in tiers above AND below the price point) and find someone whose work resonates with you.

    Yep. Artisans tend to have specialties, and knowing what shapes interest you will go a long way. Once you get shape and artisan lined out, the process is very enjoyable.

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    Ok first off let me say thank you guys for the reply’s
    You’ve given me lots to think about
    Secondly embers those pipes are gorgeous I especially like the 3rd one from the left
    I think I have somewhat of an idea of what I’m looking for
    Hey Sasquatch, are you a carver ?

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    Sasquatch knows what he’s talking about. Trust his advice.

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    I don’t doubt him one bit
    Just wondering if he would be interested in carving something for me ?

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    Well, quite possibly!

    It'd be instructive for all to see what you have in mind, and his take on it. If both of you are comfortable with such, lots of learning possible. It's been done before, IRRC.

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    I especially like the 3rd one from the left

    A personal favorite, a fugu blowfish.

    Hey Sasquatch, are you a carver ?

    Todd can certainly carve a fine pipe.

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    Ahhh great pic embers
    What a fantastic pipe
    Love the color and the detail
    How does she smoke ?

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    I have a Zack Hamric as what I consider my one artisan pipe. There are hundreds of good to great American pipe carvers who are not factories. A Mark Tinsky is on my bucket list of pipes to eventually buy.

    I am glad we have a good admin and responsible moderators.

    Heave to you dark colored ship under sail! Prepare to be boarded!
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    How does she smoke ?

    Very well. My Yenidje Highlander pipe.

    I have a Zack Hamric as what I consider my one artisan pipe.

    Zack makes some amazing pieces as well if you don't mind oosik accent pieces. Those poor seals.

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    I'm interested in making you a pipe for sure Aro, but really, truly, only if there is a mesh between what I generally like to make, which is like, catalog shapes from 100 years ago mostly. I drift into slightly Italian tendencies sometimes, big fat curvy stuff. You can visit me as BSTpipes.com and have a look around.

    Other people to check out and talk to - Ryan Alden, Scottie Piersel, Clark Layton, Nate King, Michael Addis, Ernie Markle, Manny Atilano, and probably about 20 others.

    If you send me into the shop and just say "Make a pipe." I'll make this kind of thing 9 times in 10.

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  18. aro222

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    Thanks for being honest Sasquatch I appreciate the reply
    I did have something else in mind for now
    Thanks for taking the time to try and help
    I’ll keep hunting for something that grabs me
    Cheers brother

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    If you want something more interesting, talk to Abe Herbaugh or Mycah Cryder, both make absolutely stunning pipes.

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    Ryan Alden.

    Jason
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    Thank you Sasquatch
    You’ve been very helpful

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    You've been given excellent advice on this thread by very reputable contributors. I will only add one thing, which is to be careful. As soon as I got my first really well made 'artisan' pipe PAD kicked in real bad

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop smoking my pipe
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    Yes. High end PAD can lead to DAD, Debt Acquisition Disorder...

    A good way to kill a lot of time and get a feel for the variety is to go to SP.com and use the pipe locator, focusing a while on each shape category. Lots of different perspectives in one spot.

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    Great idea jaytex
    I’ll do that first
    Thanks

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    Great advice so far. If you[re looking for something a bit different you might look at Tony Fillenwarth:

    https://www.fillenwarthpipes.com/

    I have six of his pipes and all are great smokers.

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    Try to look for Indonesian pipe maker. Some of them have a great pipe making skill and ship internationally. Budget friendly too

    Adhie was here
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    Bst. Aka Sasquatch makes a legit straight up sweet pipe.

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    Nate King is worth taking a look at also.

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    The safest way to go is with a well-known pipe carver like Tinsky and others regularly mentioned on Forums. You'll pay for the known name, but you will probably get a good pipe. If you need or want to be more thrifty, there are many talented carvers who are not "names," who do beautiful work. I prefer to see a selection of pipes in person and find my "soul mate" among them rather than do a commission and hope for the best, but either way works. Some carvers are not trying to pay their bills with their sales and can be much more easygoing about price, and some will go easy on what they perceive to be knowledgeable pipe people.

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    Ryan Alden makes all kinds/shapes/sizes/finishes.

    Here are mine

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    Ash', wow.

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    Ashdigger, are you getting those from SP, commission, shows or a combo?

    Seriously awesome collection

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    Pretty sure he says "commission". Fabulous collection, great carver.

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    Jmsmitty, actually all of those, plus I check out his website always ready to pounce. Btw, I own 31 of his pipes.

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    That straight bamboo billiard seriously is calling my name, and several of the shorter apples and pretty much all of it

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    Would love some recommendations so I can begin my research.

    Boswell Pipes are a favorite of mine.

    Posted 5 months ago #

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