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  1. woodsroad

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    As of ten minutes ago, I am now in posession of three orange-scented pipe tobacco blends:

    Planta Anno MMXIII California Dream

    Peter Heinrichs Reserve Cru #2
    Rattrays Exotic Orange

    Each is quite different from the other, with the orange scent ranging from cheap candy fake to very delicious and enticing, and the cut from rough cut small pieces to long-cut pressed flake.

    Review pending full recovery from a recent cold.


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    That Rattray's tin just makes me hungry. Looking forward to the reviews.

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    Guess which one I like.

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    I wonder if pressing orange peel and tobacco into a cake for a few weeks would work?

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    Chasingembers sent me some of the Rattray's Exotic Orange a while back, and it is wonderful. Enjoy

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    Tim just sent me a tin. Should I jar it now? I have not unwrapped it from the inner cellophane packaging? I have the California Dream... Jury is still out. Hoping the Rattray’s quality comes through with the orange.

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    Oh crap, never sent you any! God I'm getting old. I would go ahead and jar it.

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  8. woodsroad

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    Jar it.
    The tobacco is packed in a bag that is not air tight. You can smell the blend when you open the tin.

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    Will do. Does it ghost? ChasingEmbers, I forgot all about that. If you want to try California Dream, let me know. Will be happy to send you some for comparison to Rattray’s.

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    It does leave a slightly sweet ghost after multiple bowls, but clears easily.

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    I just took a closer look at the Rattray's tin, and the bag O' baccy inside isn't even sealed.

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    Nope, just folded over and taped with a Rattray's label.

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    One has to wonder.

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    Very bizarre. Is the cellophane magical?

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    Nah, Solani's tons are the same way. I just jar them as soon as I get them.

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    Yipes.
    I'd better dig out my Solani tins then!

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    So are you saying the Solani 100g tins are not sealed Duane? I have a couple of 100g tins of 633 and they aren't cheap.

    Well WTF! I opened one. I'm glad I saw this thread. Why in the world would a company put out tins that aren't sealed without saying so on the tin? That is just nuts.

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    Yeah, I know. Silver Flake is expensive, and not sealed at all. Luckily, Sixpence tastes enough like it to me, is sealed, and is cheaper.

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    Yipes.
    I'd better dig out my Solani tins then!

    I think the 50g tins are sealed, but the 100g tins are like Exotic Orange.

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    Very nice title

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q0toEhKRWk

    I'll have to try those. I have smoked California Dream and enjoyed it. The taste is more like orange blossoms than an orange but still good.

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    Someone was paying attention.

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    Indeed! Completely missed the thrust of the o.p., numbers, and classical music. Now how bout something with Peter and The Wolf??

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    I love the music from Peter and the Wolf, and I now have Exotic Orange on Alert Me, when it comes in at SP.

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    I just took a closer look at the Rattray's tin, and the bag O' baccy inside isn't even sealed.

    If you ever bought any of those Peterson seasonal blends they come the same way.

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    Chasing, you're correct, the Solani 50 g tins are sealed normally.

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    Umm ... the Rattray's is the only one I've tried. I was hoping to read more about the others.

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    Holy crap. I have to go dig out my Solani tins... dang.

    Hope the Orange tobaccos are all awesome.

    =)

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    Doesn't matter the brand, if it comes in a tin shaped like the Exotic Orange than it is in an unsealed cellophane bag.
    It's best to jar immediately.

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    Interesting. I am looking for a high quality aro for Christmas time, and a very good orange aromatic might hit the mark.

    Dan, I look forward to hearing your thoughts. I am definitely not interested in a fake orange, pg laden shit show. But if there is anything which is remotely close to some of Glynn's high quality aromatics from the old GQ portfolio I'd like to know about them.

    Interestingly, back in the heyday of flavoured coffees one of the most popular Christmas offerings was an Orange Brandy coffee in which the dried peel of Clementines was added to a brandy flavoured medium roasted Colombian coffee. The resulting brew was a surprisingly balanced and nuanced cup of coffee in which the aromatics didn't overwhelm the flavour of the coffee.

    -- Pat

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    I have had Exotic Orange and California Dream. Exotic Orange, IMHO, is light years better. They are not in the same class. But will do a side by side with cobs this weekend. My palate may have changed. Exotic Orange lives up to its name.

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    I wonder if pressing orange peel and tobacco into a cake for a few weeks would work?

    Anyone have an educated (or other) guess?

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    [quote]I wonder if pressing orange peel and tobacco into a cake for a few weeks would work?

    Anyone have an educated (or other) guess? [/quote]

    I know a little bit about orange essential oil from making soap (another hobby of mine).

    So I'll say "Yes" with a few caveats. First, you'll need to find the right fruit. Not all oranges are created equal when it comes to the flavor and aroma of the oils in the skin. Second, you'd have to play around with the amount of tobacco surface area exposed to the peel, and the pressure applied.

    That would be a fun project.

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    I would give it a try. I imagine it will take a bit of time. Other options might be essential oil of orange or orange liqueur. And as mentioned above, a food grade sweet orange oil. Some are industrial in smell and taste.

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    You' want to use an Orange Essential Oil like this, or maybe even a Tangerine Essential Oil. Bergamot wouldn't be a bad choice, either. I've used them all in making soap, as well as deserts!

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    Looking for a "Winter Quarters" blend for the morning. Will have to try a few of these.


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    I only have two of the above mentioned orange tobaccos. Rattray's Exotic Orange, and Peter Heinrich's Reserve Crue No. 2. I find I like the both almost equally, almost. The Rattray's has more of the orange essence and is a little more complex and rich tasting. Whereas the Heinrich's you can notice the orange essence, but it's much more Virginia forward so you notice the grassy flavor of that almost as much as the orange. I switch between the two and smoke the Rattray's a little more frequently than the Heinrich's. Both are high quality tobaccos though.
    So I guess it's for the love of two oranges for me...

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    New guy here, but had to comment. I love the Rattray's Exotic Orange. As a general rule, I'm not much of a fan of aros. I find them one dimensional and uninteresting, but the REO is a fascinating smoke. I thoroughly enjoy this stuff.

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    Orley, I now tried the Peter Heinrichs Reserve Cru and I agree with you. The orange essence seemed a bit sweet in the tin (ok, in the bag), but it smoked very nicely. It's a top grade Virginia flake, and even though the orange is quite subtle in the smoke, it makes for a highly enjoyable pipe.

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    With aromatics, so much depends on the quality of the base tobacco(s) and how well the flavoring backgrounds them. It's good to see aromatics getting a serious measured consideration on Forums, since aros are 95% of the market ... if not among Forums members. I've added a few to my rotation and find that they set off the non-aromatic blends nicely and really make them pop by contrast.

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    I got to try the Rattray's Exotic Orange yesterday. First off, as for concerns that it is in an unsealed bag: not a problem. The baccy was moist (too moist), and had to be dried off a bit. Maybe because it's 75% rh here. Flavor and aroma were wonderful, very light yet rich orange, and lasted all the way through the bowl. Well balanced, could still taste the tobacco. All in all an exceptional smoke. Quite different from the Peter Heinrichs Reserve Cru, this is a true aromatic, but with natural flavorings.

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    Woodsroad, yes, exactly. Interested in your take on California Dream. For me, the Cali is missing some "bottom". I have been trying to think of what I can add to it? Or maybe I should press it into a cake... Dunno. I will have to try the PH Cru.

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    Duane very generously sent me a sample of the Rattrays Exotic Orange as well. The taste has a darker/deeper essence of orange flavor, closer to the oil in the orange peel or a candied orange peel than it is to orange juice or fresh orange to me, which I greatly prefer, as the sickly sweet taste of orange juice in a pipe would be off putting to me. This isn't by any means a goopy type aromatic, its much closer to the Lakeland treatment of tobacco, not to imply there is any Lakeland essence, its just that the Gawiths treat flavoring of tobacco much differently than most and this lovely blend is in that vein. Highly recommended to all.

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    I got to try the Rattray's Exotic Orange yesterday. First off, as for concerns that it is in an unsealed bag: not a problem. The baccy was moist (too moist), and had to be dried off a bit. Maybe because it's 75% rh here. Flavor and aroma were wonderful, very light yet rich orange, and lasted all the way through the bowl. Well balanced, could still taste the tobacco. All in all an exceptional smoke. Quite different from the Peter Heinrichs Reserve Cru, this is a true aromatic, but with natural flavorings.

    Very similar to my thoughts when I tried and reviewed it a few months ago. Very well done aromatic.

    This isn't by any means a goopy type aromatic, its much closer to the Lakeland treatment of tobacco, not to imply there is any Lakeland essence

    It has a floral note in the background that nears Lakeland territory, but never quite crosses that line. The orange compliments the tobacco taste, and my wife still gets "thank you's" from me for the tins she bought me a few months ago. Still my favorite out of the three.

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    That floral note is much closer to orange blossom than anything remotely Lakeland.

    I'm impressed with how the orange is both a scent and a flavor, and how consistent it is throughout the bowl, without overpowering or even displacing the tobacco.

    Posted 1 year ago #
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    Is Exotic Orange a limited release blend?

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    That floral note is much closer to orange blossom than anything remotely Lakeland.

    I'm impressed with how the orange is both a scent and a flavor, and how consistent it is throughout the bowl, without overpowering or even displacing the tobacco.

    Yes. The Lakeland comparison is just to say that it is a very natural floral, but not quite Gawith floral.

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    Is Exotic Orange a limited release blend?

    No, it is available sporadically throughout the year, but doesn't stay in stock for very long.

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    Yes. The Lakeland comparison is just to say that it is a very natural floral, but not quite Gawith floral.

    I just want to be clear that Exotic Orange is not a Lakeland.
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    I know, it just made the reference in my original review because of the floral background note. But I still like traditional lakelands.

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