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The Stateliest Pipe Shapes, Canadian Family

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  1. mso489

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    The Canadian family of long-shanked straight billiard-bowled pipes have always seemed to me to be the stateliest shapes. These include the Canadian shape itself, oval shanked with a tapered stem; the Lumberman, oval shanked with saddle stem; Liverpool, round shank with tapered stem; and Lovat, round shank with saddle stem. Some Lovats seem to have standard or shorter stems with the saddle stem, as a variation on the shape. I have three Canadians -- a Benton, a Johs, and a Stanwell. I always feel, well, stately smoking them. I also have a Lovat, another Johs, but with the short-short shank, not as stately but portable and a good smoker.

    Here's a pipedia link: https://pipedia.org/wiki/Canadian

    How do you like Canadian shapes?

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  2. workman

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    I'm not much of a fan. Of those mentioned, the Lovat is most to my liking, and I have seen a few that I would consider buying. The others seem unbalanced to me. Like tall guys with very short legs.

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  3. chasingembers

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    Not much of a fan of straight pipes myself. How is an inanimate object stately?

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    Like tall guys with very short legs.

    That is the funniest thing I've read in days. Bravo!

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    Like tall guys with very short legs.
    That's about how I see it too

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    I have no Canadian pipes in my collection. I have plenty of Billiards, a few Lovats, lots of apples and Dublins, Rhodesians and Brandy's. The longest pipes in my collection are two Lovats at about 6.5 inches long. All my other pipes are 5.0-6.0 inches long.

    When I look at a Canadian there is just something about it that I don't care for.

    Harris
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    I’m not sure about stately but I have really come to like the long stemmed straights myself. I never paid much attention to them until I picked up a Bones Lovat and got to like the shape. The extra wood adds some nice visual interest.

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  8. alaskanpiper

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    I love the canadian shape. So far I only have one, a Brigham Klondike, but I am a big fan of straight classic shapes, and I am a big fan of long stems, so canadians are a natural match.

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  9. papipeguy

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    I have several Canadians but this one at 9" is a stunner to me.

    Blowin' smoke since 1970.
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    I have several Canadians but this one at 9" is a stunner to me

    Holy shitballs! That pipe is a stunner for sure! Especially at 9 inches! Truly beautiful pipe. What is that thing?

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  11. dmcmtk

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    That pipe is a stunner for sure! Especially at 9 inches! Truly beautiful pipe. What is that thing?

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    Canadian, Lovats,Liverpools and slim billiards with fairly long stems are the shapes I currently favor the most.

    Paul The Scandinavian'
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    Canadian is one of my favourite shapes.

    There is some kind of understated elegance to it, especially when there is no embellishments.
    I also have a sense of 'more wood for the money' so to speak, more briar to look at.
    Like to think that the long briar shank cools the smoke down and I am no fan of nose warmers.

    Currently there is two Stanwells and one Savinelli in my rotation.

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  14. daniel7

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    My actual favourite shape is Lovat. Second is Liverpool followed by Lumberman and Canadian. I really love the way they smoke thanks to the long shank. Plus, they look very nice and elegant. I have Brebbia and Peterson Lovats and a BBB Liverpool. I sold my Savinelli 804KS Canadian, it was a very unpractical giant pipe - too long, too heavy and too big. But I'm planning to buy a normal-sized Lumberman (806) and a Canadian (802) as well from Savinelli and/or Brebbia. I like the classic look of Dunhills too but until I can buy 3-4-5 normal-priced good quality pipes for the price of one Dunhill, I'm not considering it as a possibility.

    Actually, this new Peterson (Aran 53) is my first Peterson pipe without any issues, I wanted to make a post about it, it is an excellent pipe and smoke how I expected from a Peterson. Brebbias smoke like a dream as always, it is my absolute favourite producer. Hopefully I will have some free time somewhere during the next week and I will take and upload photos.

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  15. tavol

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    I'm with workman, long shank and short stem make for an unbalanced pipe.

    A short shanked lovat is my favorite shape because it looks so utilitarian

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    Love the Canadian shape, and love that one Papipe guy. Not all grab me though, I had a Sav 804KS that just didn't grab me and I sold. Not sure why, but I try not to duplicate things in my collection - so I only have one presently

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  17. mso489

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    How is an inanimate object stately? It must be by association. In the same way that perhaps a majority really like the bulldog shape, but others wouldn't have one. So what are my associations that make Canadian shapes stately to me? I think it is simplicity, a little larger look even for medium size pipes, and the underlying demand for a somewhat bigger piece of briar for the purpose. There may be other aspects, but those are the conscious ones. To me, there is quite a non-verbal visual language to pipe shapes, almost a conversation, that makes pipe shapes art as well as tools.

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  18. alaskanpiper

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    In the same way that perhaps a majority really like the bulldog shape, but others wouldn't have one.

    This is so true, at least in my experience. I find the bulldog to be the single ugliest shape I have yet seen. I honestly can't say why, aesthetically they just make me want to barf. I just don't understand some peoples' (and makers') fascination with them. That and the giant Oom Pauls that look like Jabba the Hutt. I'd still take one of those over a bulldog in a heartbeat though.

    Maybe they smoke like a dream?

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    I find the bulldog to be the single ugliest shape I have yet seen.

    Same

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    I can understand that. But I like bulldogs. But they are clunky and ungraceful, so the attraction, for some, is something else. A kind of sturdy practical look, for those who see them that way. I like churchwardens but not Cavaliers, which look stagy to me, but some folks like them a lot. I like the Peterson brandy/volcano B11, but it's not a generally admired shape. So it goes.

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    I find the bulldog to be the single ugliest shape I have yet seen.

    Ha! Wasn't there a thread recently about our least favorite shape? I believe everyone knows that the blowfish is the ugliest. Bulldogs are cool.

    Tim
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  22. alaskanpiper

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    I like the Peterson brandy/volcano B11, but it's not a generally admired shape

    I like the B11. Not generally a bent stem fan (outside of churchwardens) but I do like Peterson's bent shapes. Some of the Sav one's as well, I have a 904 and a 920.

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    I find the bulldog to be the single ugliest shape I have yet seen.

    Same

    Hmmm, I say HMMMMMM..... Y'all's is jes' messed up is what *I* think.

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    PeterD-Buffalo Spirit has the best, largest collection of Canadian shaped pipes of anyone I have ever seen...he has a couple that Ron of RdPipes made for him...similar to what papipeguy has, made by the same Pipe Carver.
    Ron's pipes are, to me, elegant...and PeterD-Buffalo Spirit has the largest collection as I stated above.
    I have 3 in my collection...a Comoy Golden Grain, a GBD Virgin and a Yello-bole Canadian...all are excellent smokers.
    Forgive an old man who repeats things too often.

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  25. timt

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    Never thought I was a fan of the Canadian shape but ended up with a couple. They're technically bent billiards I suppose but I consider them Canadians. The first is a Rossi 8812. It just has a little bend right at the tip of the stem. It's another one of those Rossi pipes that I liked so well I got a similar Savinelli. The Savinelli is a 814 KS. The little bend at the end is nice as I clench pretty much all the time.

    I'll ask my wife if they make me look stately. She wouldn't lie.

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    Hmmm, I say HMMMMMM..... Y'all's is jes' messed up is what *I* think.

    IIRC, Jesse's not a fan either.

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    ^^^^ Oh, you no fun, falling right over like that.

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    Alaskanpiper: I find the bulldog to be the single ugliest shape I have yet seen.

    And yet, he bought a MM Bully on the first day they were announced.

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    Boom. Thanks, Tulsa! }}:)

    Funny thing is, when I was getting my Elba out of the rack a little while ago, I passed over 6 bulls to get to it. I'm Evel Knievel!
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    I agree with the opening comments of this thread completely. Canadians of various stripes are my favorites hands down. I have a Comoy, Ashton, 2 Crawfords and more. I also have a Savenelli Bing's Favorite that I think qualifies.

    As for the bulldog, I think its appeal is how comfortably it can be clenched.

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    As for the bulldog, I think its appeal is how comfortably it can be clenched.

    Any well balanced pipe with a nice button is easily clenched.

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    I love Canadians and the Canadian pipe shape. Although I dont own one I am in search for a Dunhill Canadian of a particular year.

    Cheers,
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    Albert Einstein was once quoted as saying, “I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs.” One of the reasons behind this statement is that pipe smoking is meant to be a slow leisurely activity. It takes patience to smoke a pipe. Unlike cigarettes and cigars, there is a certain amount of technique to smoking a pipe. Where cigars and cigarettes can just be picked up, lit and puffed on, pipes require the development of a technique in order to get the best smoking experience.
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    I personally like the canadian shape...if it is balanced. I have two, a slim prerepublic meer lined Pete', which is quite small, and a Savinelli, which is large and unwieldy and does not lend itself to a pleasant smoke. The Peterson

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
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    I like the Canadian family, I will admit it is a bit about the fact that I am a Canadian but it is more the shape. I like the long stem and what I find to be a classic shape. I have 3 of the Canadian shape (Savinelli KS, Brigham Canadian Sesquicentennial, 1933-37 Frank Medico) and a 1962 Dunhill root briar Lovat. I smoke the Lovat the most and haven’t smoked the Brigham yet.

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    Correction: long shank. Now I know I’m going to hear about it.

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    Well, given your correction post is but two minutes after the original, you could have edited it and no one would have been the wiser. So you learned something by your mistake!

    It wasn't one everyone would catch, and anyone who'd make a big deal of it is a dick; the context was clear.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    I have a brandy with a long, oval shank.
    Is that anything bordering Canadian or just an abomination?

    Posted 2 weeks ago #

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