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The Real Popeye

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  1. cosmicfolklore

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    Every now and then, I get sucked into internet click bait. But, this time it was rather interesting. Growing up, Popeye was one of my favorite cartoons, with Looney Tunes being a close second. So, when I saw the true man that inspired the cartoon, I was enthralled and had to do a little more research on this guy.

    Frank “Rocky” Fiegel was the inspiration for the fictional character. A real life tough guy, who had strength beyond the impressions that you would get from seeing his scrawny self, and he was known to be an outstanding fist fighter. He had the prominent chin and the signature pipe always in clench. But, for the corncob gang, I couldn't find a single picture of him with a cob.

    In watching some of my favorite Popeye flicks as an adult, I never noticed just how risqué it was for it's time. There was one scene where Popeye is walking up the steps of a castle and Olive Oyl is waving a handkerchief and yelling for help. Popeye is gruffing under his breath as he makes his way up the steps, and he gives his signature laugh, "Eh eh eh, Ooo I cant wait to get my hands on her... I never made love in technicolor before. Eh eh eh" But, it said so gruffly said that it flies right over children's heads.

    There are other phrases he said, like, "Ohh, I stick it in her a'right, eh eh eh..." And, "Oooo, I'll do him up rough and then I'll do me Oyl rough next, eh eh eh." There are also scenes embedded into the cartoon, like brief frames of exposed breasts, and brief shots of calendars on the walls with naked women on them. The cartoonists obviously had a lot of fun making these. So many times, I just couldn't make out exactly what he says, so there may even be more filth in the cartoons, but they had to get creative to get them past the network censors. But, mostly I think Popeye was seen played before movies would start in the theaters. Or, at least that is where I remember seeing most of the episodes that I've seen. I don't really remember Popeye being a Saturday morning thing. I also remember the Popeye cartoons coming on early in the mornings, before school.

    Oh Saturday morning cartoons. Damn cable for making Saturday morning cartoons so much less exciting these days.

    And, hats off to the original tough guy, Frank “Rocky” Fiegel, for inspiring a cartoon to inspire a generation.

    Popeye the sailor man
    He lives in a garbage can
    He eats all the worms
    And spits out the germs
    He's...

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    That's pretty cool. Yes, I'm sure a lot was snuck into shows like that a single frame at a time.

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    Michael: Thanks for that! Wonderful!

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    Wow, thanks for sharing.

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    Great read! Fascinating!

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    Some of these old folks, men and women, survived what few could. I never tired of Popeye cartoons, always the same plot, the same can of spinach, with the star landing on his feet.

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    I always thought Popeye was a total creation of a cartoonist! Thanks for sharing.

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    Thanks for posting.

    I loved the cartoons.

    I also loved the comic books they sold in Italy when I was a kid.

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    In Italy he is known as Braccio di Ferro (Arm of Steel...meh, sounds better in Italian).

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    That made my day!

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    Great info thanks for sharing.

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    Excellent article, Michael. Thanks. Got me singing the song!

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    I've always loved the sotto-voice asides Popeye would spew between lines with the other characters. Like the "I can read writin', but this writin's rotten" line over the menu in gibberish from the ali-baba episode.

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    +10 for the ise of “sotto-voice.” That was exactly the word I was looking for.

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    I read that someone i he has lost his pipe in the bringing Popeye back with new material. The pictures I've seen suggest that he has lost his pipe in the new version. Shameful!

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    Thanx for the post, Popeye was a fave of mine, what fun

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    "Well, blow me down"!

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    Wonderful !

    Thanks for posting this. I was a fan as a kid, haven’t seen the cartoon in years. Now I’m curious to look at them again, through adult eyes.

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    An Anime website has 49 Popeye cartoons

    Anilinkz

    Also on a website called WatchDub there are 37 of the cartoons, plus links to another 5 they are calling "movies."

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    Interesting and fun post. I grew up watching Popeye cartoons. Thanks for posting.

    edit- Never cared for the Popeye movie with Robin Williams.

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    I found a third website which claims to have 112 Popeye toons, but no mater which one you click through, there's a message that it has been removed to please Warner Brothers.

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    The best stuff is always based on or is the truth, and Popeye is one of the best. Thanks for sharing.

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    "I'm no doctor, but I know when I'm loosin' my patience!" - Popeye The Sailor

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    Just a quick comparison here...if one comnpared the image of Mr. Fiegel as the "originator" of Popeye's signature looks...with what we saw from 1980 onwards, concerning a beloved 20th century comedian we lost not very long ago, doing the same character as Mr. Fiegel inspired...

    ...could one say that...with a REAL cob in place of Mr. Fiegel's "likely-briar"...that Robin Williams' portrayal of Popeye, complete with the voicing and everything (not to mention Ray Walston's "Poopdeck Pappy", seen below at left with Williams' Popeye)...

    ...just "add" to the appeal of either OR both portrayals?

    The 1980 "Popeye" motion picture musical by Robert Altman is simply a wonderfully quirky film, and gets a good bit across of what was intended by Elzie Segar's comic strip to begin with!

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    I love that Popeye was based on a real person. I feel like it really adds to the spirit of the cartoons.

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