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  1. peteguy

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    Very nice pipe - looks like a nice refurb too.

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  2. virginialover

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    I'm a small GBD collector with 20 pipes of different grades. I recently compared my first pipe ever, a GBD London( written in a straight line) that is stamped and a GBD London Made oval written and again stamped. There always is this assumption that the rondelle disappeared with the Comoy merger but I wonder if that's the case. Maybe in the last years, the GBD lower grades would get stamped instead of getting a rondelle? I like to learn about GBD history but unfortunately, the sources are very scarce. GBD pipes are beautiful and most smoke very well, the quality of the briar is amazing and I dare to say that for the money paid, those pipes are a great deal on the estate pipe market.

    Thank you for any information

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    Welcome Virginialover (I'm just East in Maryland). I've seen rondell pipes with the round COM but I don't recall seeing Staight line COM stamped pipes with a stamped stem logo. I suppose anything was possible in the era around the merger, what you suggests sounds plausible. It's too bad there doesn't seem to be any folks from the factory left to speak of such things. Those folks can't be that old yet.

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    I'll send pictures. I bought this GBD London pipe in 1987 in Montreal, it was probably on the shelf for some time. Also,I just recently payed attention to my old pipe and I was surprised to see a London grade and not a London Made that I acquired later on EBay. On another note I purchased a New Era written in a straight line with a rondelle but on the other side, there's no London,England but a 326P. Another New Era is oval written with a rondelle and London,England.

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  5. ssjones

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    Unfortunately some of new GBD's have the rondel (but it looks different) and the straight line COM. This one just popped up on Ebay this morning. The GBD page says the Midnight finish was introduced in 1980, so that makes sense.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/GBD-MID-NIGHT-BENT-PIPE-9436-/172151202453?

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  6. virginialover

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    There's a catalog from 1983 on the net pipepages.com that still shows GBD's with a rondelle now I cannot see the COM. So we could say that stamping and straight line COM, rondelle and oval markings tend to show that the merger was probably a gradual process and that the old unfinished stock from GBD found itself amalgamated with Comoy style markings.

    On kingsmokingpipesandcigars.com the GBD pipes have the rondelle but a different one, straight line markings and old school numbers. This is for sure a modern GBD and the makers are trying to cash-in on the old symbols that made GBD a good pipe at a fair price.

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  7. danielplainview

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    Speaking of the newer GBD's, not long ago Dutch posted a stock photo of a new 9438 with an amber swirl stem and brass rhondelle. It looked very nice. Has anyone bought a new GBD recently, and how is the quality? The only new GBD's I've seen for sale is the PUB model on P&C. That model just doesn't appeal to me.

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  8. ssjones

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    I've seen the PUB models at my local Cigars International store. They aren't my cup of tea, but look decent for the $80 asking price.

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    I was watching this unsmoked, 1936 GBD with hallmarks. It blew past my max intended so fast in the final ten seconds, that I didn't even get a chance to record a losing bid. I would have just smoked it anyway...

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    If you are a GBD collector you can not live without J.W.Coles book " The GBD St Claude Story " London 1976.
    Hard to find I should think but make a try.

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    I found a copy in the UK thanks to a member here (shipping was only to the UK). It is rather hard to find here. I would say that book is for the hard-core GBD fans as it mainly pertains to the business end with little on how the pipes were made, finish grades, eras, etc.

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    This might be a record for a GBD, $629. I've never seen a GBD of this size before.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/381775032245?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    Posted 2 years ago #
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    My recent purchase, GBD Conquest Prehistoric 262 with Sterling Silver Band

    Nowhere in the world will such a brotherly feeling of confidence be experienced as amongst those who sit together smoking their pipes
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    My first and favorite GBD

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    here on for you Al and anyone else.
    This is my latest GBD new standard,is it a rhodesian? any idea of the model number.I havent got it yet but Dean at estatepipeshop.co.uk said in his listing number worn off.I think I can see a 9 and a 1 there.There is no sign of a GBD rondell or stamp on the stem ,do you think it looks original?



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    It sure looks like a 9438, but the stem is most likely not original. It would have had the rondelle and the dimensions, while certainly apt, are not quite right.

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    @samcoffeeeman
    you may well be right about the stem as if you look at the picture of the GBD stamping there is wear towards the stem/stummel join ,maybe indicating that it has been sanded to match the stem.I am not really worried as it was very well priced.

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    I'd probably pass on that one Paul, and only perhaps at a low price point.

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    The bit shape suggests that pipe is a post merger 9438 Bent Rhodesian. You will notice the bit has a slight flatness to the sides not present in earlier London Made versions. Additionally the earlier pipes has a slightly fishtailed button end. The attached picture are all pre-merger pipes. The pipe you have pictured is likely to have been made in the Comoy factory in London after 1981.

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    Too rich for my blood but I’d love to give this a read. Checkout that table of contents !

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F382283710979

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    @Dave - I picked up a copy via a UK bookseller, than member Klause did the shipping relay. It was under $40 shipped.
    The book isn't as good as the table of contents appears. It's mostly written from a business perspective, little is written about the pipe making, etc. Unless you are looking for a business study, I'd pass at over $50.

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    Al's right; a lot of minutiae about the company, much less about its products. A few nuggets, for sure, but by no means a mother lode

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    Only have one GBD in the stable. Found this one at a reasonable price. Didn't need much cleaning up. The Tapestry line of pipes is listed as an early model about halfway along the grade line according to several websites.I just liked the looks and the various patterns of briar and surfaces. Marked GBD, Tapestry. Lower left side is London England, 135. No markings on the right side. Don't know if I'll smoke it or send it on to someone else. Comments and history always appreciated. Thanks, Hoppes







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    Picked this GBD Autumn Gold 2871 up for the equivalent of about 32$. It was pretty beat up and needed a bowl topping and also had a depression in the top of the stem which needed filling. The topping revealed a minor flaw in the rim, but I can live with that.

    The stem is a sort of tortoise shell acrylic (I think). Looks quite different to the bronze freeze dried process stems I see elsewhere on this thread. More translucent, I would say. No idea of it's age, so if any of the experts want to chime in on that score I'd be grateful. Some before and afters below. Apologies for the crappy cell phone pics. All I have at the moment. I didn't photograph it but the COM is LONDON ENGLAND on one line.

    BTW it was also my first attempt at using Danish Oil for the finish, which turned out OK, I think.

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    @hoppes - the Tapestry line was introduced in the 70's from what I've read/observed in catalogs, although an exact date not possible. Typically Tapestry pipes came with "Chair-leg" stems (turned features). So yours is unusual.

    @puffermark - that is an unusual GBD stem - almost "Double Comfort" style.

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    This is a funky looking GBD that I picked up a few weeks ago. I bought it simply because of the shape. Haven't seen a GBD that looks like this. It's almost a clunky style pipe that looks like some of the old French made items. It has the squared off football-like stampings that apparently the International series had. That series was supposed to have a rustic rim as well. This was well smoked so will take some work to get it looking proper. I assume this is a later made pipe after the merger--don't know if GBD carried on the International line or if it is still being made. Anyone have a similar GBD? Any history appreciated. Thanks, Hoppes





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    A Greaves Patent Smooth Billiard pipe I attempted to restore this evening. A beautiful and very old pipe. I don't have a date for it and can't find much history about it?

    Greaves Patent Smooth Billiard1 by Mark Harper, on Flickr

    Greaves Patent Smooth Billiard2 by Mark Harper, on Flickr

    Greaves Patent Smooth Billiard3 by Mark Harper, on Flickr

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    I'll add my 1937 R9239 which you may have seen in George's thread before and after the refurb, simply amazing...

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    ss, one of my first good pipes was purchased in 1963 or 1964. It is a Century, COM London England, silver rondel, shape no. 886, it has an acrylic stem. It is identified as a Liverpool shape. It is a very diminutive little pipe no more than a group 2. I have never seen another, have you ?

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    I have seen the 886 shape, but its not in my wheel-house shapewise, so I don't pay much attention to them.

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    That 9239 is amazing. I’ve only seen 1937’s is that the only year they were made?

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    Geez, I'm guilty of not posting my own recent additions.

    1937 R9239, this is the only year I've ever seen on this model (which I've seen three times). I'd love to know the backstory on this model.

    1939 R9118

    9242 New Standard (sold one, bought this one)

    9242 (no line name)

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    So, this is my first post here in the forums anyway
    Id like to show you guys my 3 GBD pipes which i adore.

    1.France 347 / Special Standard:

    2.LONDON ENGLAND 3781 / Pedigree:

    3.LONDON ENGLAND 1241 / Pedigree:

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  34. seacaptain

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    This is a neat item.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGLISH-ESTATE-PIPE-BOX-GBD-LARGE-ANTIQUE-HINGED-METAL-BOX-c-1906/372207567790?hash=item56a94cc3ae:g:BOcAAOSwSKtaXsaq

    The medals on the front are various exposition medals that were awarded as prizes. It means that GBD probably had a booth at these expos and maybe even competed with other pipe makers.

    Here's an example of the 1889 Paris Expo medal displayed on the front of the tin. This was the expo where the Eiffel Tower was unveiled.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/FRENCH-1889-EXPOSITION-UNIVERSELLE-PARIS-BRONZE-MEDAL-BY-LOUIS-BOTTEE-M-29/380867354241?hash=item58ad769e81:g:YogAAOxy039TKjPE

    These expos were very important to industries at the time and very competitive. In fact Campbell's Soup won a gold medal at the 1900 Paris Expo and it's still part of their can label to this day.

    Here's an example of one of the medals (not gold) on ebay.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1900-EXPOSITION-OLYMPIC-BRONZE-MEDAL-CHAPLAIN-EXHIBITION/252738219718?hash=item3ad85f2ec6:g:HXcAAOSw9GhYhyoh

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  35. ssjones

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    That is fascinating Seacaptain. I've seen those medal references before, but it didn't really register as something special, now I know different!

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    SSjones that 9243 New Standard is a beauty, congratulations...

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    @shane1: Guessing a more recent vintage, but I have not seen that type of rectangular logo previously (nor many/any GBD 9 mm pipes) GBD had a revival of sorts in the 90's, but those had brass logo stems. Yours is pretty unique!

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    Just got my first GBD. A 1960s vintage UNSMOKED shape # 9697 Virgin Collector bent cauldron with a white perspex stem. I have a weakness for unstained natural pipes and this one caught my eye. I have very few English pipes in my collection so this is a good addition. I won it for $96 which seems like a really good price to me considering that similar used ones are listed for more. Any more info about this pipe would be appreciated

    Here is the link to the ebay listing. I'll get the pipe in a couple days

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-039-s-GBD-Collection-Virgin-9697-Bent-Cauldron-Pipe-Unsmoked-COOPERSARK-NR-/233169778659?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=lRYsD%252Br9POFU2BvLSzJPGq3k3Ls%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

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    I hope you are not disappointed when you get the pipe. It has a clear Perspex stem, not a white stem as you indicated.

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