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  1. pitchfork

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    I only have the one GBD. Actually, it's an MRC ("A. Marechal, Ruchon and Cie" ) with silver army mount and amber stem. The silver is marked "AO" for A. Oppenheimer & Co., who by that time owned GBD. The date mark is for 1916.

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    Pitchfork that pipe is gorgeous. Pushing 100 years old and unsmoked? Unbelievable.

    Make aromatics great again.
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    Found a new Shape chart.

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    Yep, unsmoked. I do plan to smoke it, but haven't just yet.

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    When the chart says "English only" or "French only", what does that mean, and why did it matter?

    The pipe is an instrument of civilization.
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    Hadn't noticed that, tuold. That's really interesting. It must mean that certain shapes are only made in France or only made in England, but would that mean that other shapes are produced in both countries? I'm trying to imagine why that would matter to the buyer.

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    The GBD Prehistoric (9437) with Perspex stem has become one of my favorite English blend smokers.

    It's one of only two pipes that I can fit my thumb into.

    I also have this Prehistoric Billiard (9489) also with Perspex stem which is a great Va/Per pipe:

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    For a long time, I was very particular about my GBD's, they had to be stamped "London,England". The French shapes are a little different and I've since learned they smoke just as good as the London made pipes. (ie the two 9438 shapes are decidedly different)

    Al

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    Here is a good example of differences on a 9242, from France and England.

    This is dolomite128's French made 9242

    And my 9242 New Standard.

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    That's really interesting. Al, is that something that GBD collectors pay attention to?

    Also, do you know if there were there some periods where they were made only in England, or have there always been two countries of manufacture for the line?

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    According to "GBD The St. Claude Story" there were always two separate GBD organizations. In the early years of the twentieth century it was GBD Paris and GBD London. Later St Claude took over the Paris portion of the business. By the way the St. Claude factory supplied both with stummels which were then finished in by respective organizations.

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    I found these two old gents in the same antique store a week apart. An International and a Sablee Standard.

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    Sweet! Is that a reflection or a nick on the bowl?

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    Nice score Tuold. That poker is sweet!

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    I found this GBD Virgin Bulldog (17) (pre-1980) (Handcut Stem) that I really like and it lists for $155. Is that a decent price and a quality pipe? Apologies if this isn't the appropriate thread.

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    rhoadsie PM sent

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    I have one GBD Fifth Avenue, Made In France. The shape is a very rare one (to me, at least): a Saucer. It took me forever to find the correct description (not from a GBD shape chart, though). It has satin stain and I bought it new in the early 1980s. Still a great smoker, although not a go-to as I lean more heavily to Virginias and VaPers and this pipe is pretty much dedicated to English-style flakes.

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    I snagged this Digby 9438 this evening. I didn't need another 9438, but the price was right.




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    Oh, so nice. Your photos? They are good.

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    Those are Ebay pix.

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    If the price is right, how could you pass that up. That is slick. Congrats.

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    This interesting pair was posted as a BIN last night. Two, unsmoked Digby's, including a 9242. I passed at $259 (seller offered me $220). Thanks to member bonened for the heads-up.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/172031860948?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


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    For the GBD naming convention, does Rockroot translate to morta?

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    No sthbkr77 - they are rusticated briar.

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    Three GBD (& Private Label) bent Rhodesians. All have the GBD Style numbers 9438 or 569 GS. The Fleur de Lis has a rarely seen Meerschaum bowl lining.

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    That's a grand slam Dutch!

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    Here's the Digby once the fills and dings have been repaired.

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    Beautiful additions guys. Dutch, that Sablee is a keeper.

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    All fine pipes and absolute keepers gents.
    I recently purchased a GBD speciale from the Bay. Still on its way to me from over the big pond.
    It was something of a puzzle first, but I did the research. Is says Paris France on the stummel ( no shape nr )
    And especcially the mouthpiece is of interest; odd iron screw in tenon, amazing looking bit and a vaque GBD imprinted logo. Rumour has it that the Paris factory closed its gates 1952 and production was moved to St. Claude.
    So the little canadian should be pre 1952
    Question; when did GBD introduce the metal rondelle on their stems and was it on both English and French pipes ?
    Cheers to you all.

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    I've never seen a reference to an exact date when the metal rondell was first used. Below, from the Pipepedia page seems to indicate that it was in the 1920's.

    The French GBDs more or less followed the same developments, although Xtra and Speciale very longly used there. In the late 1920s a GBD with a metal filter system was introduced under the name Extra Dry. Also from Paris came another important new feature: the introduction of the inserted metal plate with the GBD initials on the stems. That insert added a further "touch of class" to the pipes and in London it was attached immediately.

    Having said that, hallmarked GBD's from the 1920's pop up infrequently, but I can't recall seeing one of those with a metal rondel,but rather a stamped rondell like this one.

    http://www.thepiperack.com/blue-chip-unsmoked-pipe-1920s-gbd-xtra-french-hallmarked-billiard-w-box-and-sleeve/

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    Excellent thread. Should be a sticky.

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    Got this 70s GBD Bronze Velvet with an acrylic freeze dried process stem. Never heard of such a thing. The seller info is most interesting. Paid $81 and happy to have it

    You are bidding on a lightly and carefully formerly enjoyed condition , 1970's production, "GBD" "Bronze Velvet" "Zulu" shaped pipe, that is stamped with the shape number 2871.

    This was a very high grade GBD pipe at the time that it was produced around 1976. Thirty years ago, this series of pipes sold for $100.00 USD - That's over $400.00 in today's inflation adjusted dollars!

    The swirled bronze acrylic stem was crafted using a freeze dried process and is truly unique in the pipe world to this exclusive series of pipes! This was my personal pipe. I can tell you that the GBD Bronze Velvet pipes perform like a dream and are among my personal favorites, regardless of cost! This series of pipes typically posses a mixed grain on their bowls, as GBD was looking for flawless wood in this series. The briar is comparable in its flawlessness to the Dunhill Root Briar series of pipes.

    The overall balance feels perfect as does the hand feel. The draft is nice and easy. A pipe cleaner will effortlessly glide to the bottom of the bowl.

    Here are the dimensions of this rare high grade English classic: The overall length is about 5.50". The bowl height is 1.75". The tobacco chamber is about 0.875" in diameter, and tapers down the bowl's 1.50" inner depth. Capacity is similar to that of a solid Group 4 size Dunhill pipe. The weight is 48 grams.

    Edit: Fixed pix/Al

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    That's a great looking Bronze Velvet - those tend to fly under the radar, but they were a very high grade. That one looks in terrific shape.4

    Does the stem have "Hand cut" on it? I don't really know if those acrylic stems were hand cut.

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    Thank you for putting the picture in there. Here is a link to an image of the underside of the shank. I don't know if it was hand cut. I can't make our exactly what it says, but you may have seen such markings before.Pipe is in excellent condition. If you scroll down, it is the picture with number/mark 2871. There is some writing there, that I cannot fully make out. You may have seen it before, and know what it says.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970s-GBD-Bronze-Velvet-Zulu-2871-Pipe-Pristine-COOPERSARK-NO-RESERVE-/231785202704?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=cXKDOjs7j%252FTAoLsSMsLRZcESlWg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

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    It would be here, but I don't know if you can stamp into an acrylic stem?

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    I don't see anything that states "Hand Cut" so I guess not. I am intrigued by the seller's statement that: "The swirled bronze acrylic stem was crafted using a freeze dried process and is truly unique in the pipe world to this exclusive series of pipes!" this I have never heard of.

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    Question; when did GBD introduce the metal rondelle on their stems and was it on both English and French pipes ?

    The metal rondell denotes the pipe to pre-Comoy merger. I remember reading that fact on this very forum. I am not sure what year the merger with Comoy happened but I am sure someone on here does.

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    Yes, the demise of the metal rondel at the merger date is pretty well known and thought to be around 1981 by many people. But the date the metal rondel was started, not much is written about that date.

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    Many of the French made GBDs had stamped bits instead of the rondel even before the consolidation.

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    And indeed, some pipes have metal rondells after the merger point. Ah, the mysteries of GBD.

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    The City de Luxe content in this older catalog attracted me,...(beautiful showcards!)
    but the price disattracted me...
    RARE OPPENHEIMER PIPE CATALOG , 72 PAGES SOME COLOR LONDON 1938-39 ORIGINAL

    ...I wonder how much actual pipe content it has?
    Looks like a lot of accessories,
    although I am seriously tempted because I love anything pre-war British,
    but would be highly disappointed if not many pipes were featured.

    The same seller has a good grouping of old rare catalogs,
    a 1910 Peterson catalog he had sold for $200 within a couple of days.

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    He does have some interesting pieces. I'd love to have 30 minutes with it in my hand, but too rich for my wallet as well.

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    He does have some interesting pieces. I'd love to have 30 minutes with it in my hand, but too rich for my wallet as well.

    Buroak has suggested a pretty neat strategy for obtaining these ultra-pricey catalogs,
    having a "collectors pool" of enthused individuals contribute a portion toward the cost and then share the catalog via scanned pdf
    or paper xerox...

    ...I think it's a great idea.

    If we had ten interested members,
    just think,
    it'd only be $15 each!

    The caretaker of the physical catalog is a different matter and I'm sure we could resolve that issue somehow,
    but if sufficient interest is generated here and Buroak's idea may indeed become a possible reality,
    I'd nominate you for being the Keeper of the Tomes.

    I'm game if anyone else is!

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    I'm in at $15 (or perhaps he'll take an offer!)

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    (or perhaps he'll take an offer!)

    Good idea!

    I'm in at $15

    That's 2 of us!

    Would love to see this happen!

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    Thank you Al and Gloucesterman, stunning 9348 pipes . The bit of the Paris made canadian is a so called orifice one ( sorry, english is not my first language )
    Great thread indeed ; let's stick together

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    Greetings all,new to the forum but not to pipes..seems like a great place for gabbing and info.
    Please forgive me if I'm in the wrong thread but likely kill to birds with one pipe,I have had a beautiful GBD HISTORIC stubby billiard for over 25 years and can't find any info on it whatsoever.Lots on the pre-historics but nothing on the "historic"..It's a great quality pipe and smokes like a dream,VERY light for it's size and incredibly dense briar..almost a "ping" to to it when tapped with tamper.
    ANY help at all on it's possible age ( I'm thinking 60's?) and history of this line would be greatly appreciated.
    When I figure out how to upload photos I will include some of the pipe in question.

    Cheers!

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    Welcome acme. I've never seen a GBD stamped "Historic", can you post some pictures that show the stamping? I've not heard "pre-historic" used either - does it denote a pre-Cadogan pipe (brass rondell, "London, England" COM)?

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    Thanks for the welcome and reply,in the day the "pre-historics" were the thing to collect..VERY nice pipes indeed..note link - https://pipedia.org/wiki/GBD , gives a bit of poop on the pre historics.
    Please school me as to how one uploads pics on this site?..I seem to be not seeing an option anywhere aside from entering a URL or uploading to my gallery in my profile..but I've also uploaded an avatar that is not showing up on the page either.

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    Well THAT didn't work!...how the heck does one add pics to a post?????

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    GBD has of course a "Prehistoric" finish (sandblast). I'm pretty familiar with the GBD pipepedia page, but I don't see any reference there to a pre-historic or historic?

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    I am not a GBD guy, but I am also in at $15. These pieces of pipe history need to be preserved and shared. I would love to see if we could arrange pools for some of the other catalogs.

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    That's 3 of us.

    Al,
    what do you think about starting a new thread on this subject,
    sort of like a sign-up thing for a collectors pool?

    It'd really be great if we could get a small respectable number of folks interested!

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    I second MLC's motion to create a thread for a collector's pool.

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    GBD has of course a "Prehistoric" finish (sandblast). I'm pretty familiar with the GBD pipepedia page, but I don't see any reference there to a pre-historic or historic?

    I've never seen a GBD stamped "Historic", can you post some pictures that show the stamping? I've not heard "pre-historic" used either

    [/quote]GBD has of course a "Prehistoric" finish (sandblast). I'm pretty familiar with the GBD pipepedia page, but I don't see any reference there to a pre-historic or historic?

    @ssjones,now I'm even more confused than I was before..you had said you've never heard about the pre-historics in your earlier post? I'm not sure what I have but it's a very nice pipe and smokes great.I've uploaded photos to my album on my profile but not going to fart around with a photo sharing account just to upload one picture..thanks again for the reply though!

    Happy puffing!

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    Jacksswilling, that is a gorgeous pipe and one of my favorite shapes. Outstanding purchase!

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    I was the only bidder on this one a GBD Freestyle e-bay # 26226153855. The price was right 49.00, it looks all most new.

    Right near the top of my bucket list is posting pictures

    Walter

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    @acme - I suspect "historic and "pre-historic" are used similarly as "Cadogan-era" and "Pre-Cadogan". I see that term used occasionally on Ebay ads (but no where else, till you mentioned it here).

    @Walt - Here is your GBD, an interesting grade/finish.

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    My neighbor has a 15 year old grandson, who for 20 dollars will teach me how to post pictures.

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    One the catalog cabal. I'll contribute for a number of them.

    Walter

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    MLC, if you can put it together I'm in for $15. PM me if it comes together. Dutch

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    Started a new thread for the possible catalog collectors group.

    See here:
    http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/pipesmag-ephemera-syndicate-collectors-group

    Jolly Smoggo!

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    I am in also: let me know

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    This interesting piece just showed up on Ebay, alas without the stem.
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172121580934?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

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    Nice!
    It would be a fun challenge to design a stem for it....

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    Heres my other GBD. I just received this one and I have just started restoring it. It is a "Militaire" 9740

    Well, what do you know! I admired this 9240 "Militaire" last year and ended up buying it from Milehighme on Ebay last week. Here's the restored pipe, some very good work. I'm accustomed to cleaning/restoring "restored" pipes as they almost never meet my standards. The seller is 303_pipe_restoration, I'm impressed.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/182044409604?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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    Thank you for the kind words they truly do mean a lot to me. I was hesitant about selling this one but knowing the pipe is in good hands makes it easier to part with. Thanks for also mentioning our eBay name, coming from you, we take that as a HUGE compliment!

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    Nice grab Al. The "Militaire" line pipes are few an far between. I have that same pipe but have only seen them come up for auction a very few times in the last five or six years. I think you find it a very good smoker.

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    That's a beaut. Love that blast. Congrats.

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    Impressive. What was done to the chamber? I'm seeing nothing but clean wood/ maybe stain. Hard to tell.

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