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The Elusive Brandy Shape

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  • Started 5 years ago by mso489
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  1. mso489

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    Brandy shape pipes are simple to identify since they are shaped like a brandy snifter,
    a bit wider at the bottom and narrowing -- a little or a lot -- toward the top. You'd think.
    I find brandy shape pipes to be quite elusive. On many bent billiards, the front of the bowl
    is perfectly cylindrical but the back of the bowl joining he shank slopes toward the rim --
    billiard or brandy? Most of the time these get called bent billiards. Some brandy shape pipes
    narrow so decidedly toward the top, people call them volcanos, and arguably they are, or they
    are both. For almost a year, I lived with an extra large 1/4 bent pipe I assumed was a brandy,
    a Johs, until I found that the carver had declared it an apple! It was a gift from my wife, who
    lived in New York for years -- so I now call it The Big Apple. Anyway, the brandy shape is one
    of the more evanescent shapes. And where are those straight brandy pipes? I bet they exist,
    but I don't think I've ever encountered one. Do you have any brandy pipes? Or brandy pipe stories?
    Do you like the shape?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. sothron

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    I have a Brebbia brandy with a slight quarter bend and a very large bowl. Love the shape. I view it as distinct from a billiard with a slightly tapered bowl. I see a true brandy as more sniffer-like, with a more pronounced taper. An apple is something entirely different, IM(very)HO. I'm smoking an apple now and, as I look at it, it has a more spherical quality with tapers top and bottom. Whereas a brandy tapers directly from top to bottom. A brandy is also taller than an apple, exaggerating the effect.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. mso489

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    I have two Peterson bent brandy B11's, one ebony Killarney and the other a Shannon. They are sitters,
    light weight relative to their size, and great smokers. This seems to be one of the best developed,
    longer lived versions of the brandy shape that I know.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. odobenus

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    I've got a straight brandy, or a brandy-billiard depending on your definition (and if such a thing exists). It's a Comoy Rover 350 that I bought in about '96.

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  5. dmcmtk

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    I'll play. A very nice bent brandy from Eliott Nachwalter, Briar Workshop Stowe VT. Pipe is in excellent condition, dates from the late '70's.


    Dave
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    Posted 6 months ago #
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    I have a rusticated brandy bowl for my Falcon. Actually, it's the only bowl I have for my Falcon...I need a few more.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    I own 2 Brandy's. I am not a huge fan only because in general the dimensions of the ones I look at are smaller than I like.

    Here are the ones I own.
    Brian Ruthenberg

    Ryan Alden

    Harris
    Posted 6 months ago #
  8. tschiraldi

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    The 1/8 bent Brandy is favorite shape. I have 2 commissioned by Jesse Jones. Fabulous!

    Posted 6 months ago #
  9. fishnbanjo

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    I have several, the first is definitely a Brandy shaped bowl. One of my favorite Falcon Pipes is this straight Black Shillelagh, with custom made Bowl by Pipemaker Yves Backstoner of Switzerland, called The Sea Urchin. Keeping it smokey with some 10 y/o Wessex Brigade, cheers.
    banjo

    The pipe I’m smoking is a different variety than most bamboo shanks are made from, it’s much thicker than the normal ones we generally see and much smaller than the variety used for the Buddha bamboo shanks be they conventional or Reverse Calabash style. The pipe is from Bruce Weaver and has a beautiful flame grain brandy bowl with a slanted top, married to the 3 knuckle bamboo shank and lightly bent black stem, if it were a knuckle shorter it would have been a nose warmer, keeping it smokey with more of the 23 y/o Grey Havens from Mac Baren.

    The second is what we normally have seen used for bamboo shanks since Sixten Ivarsson was putting out pipes. It’s also a 3 knuckle but you can see the diameter is smaller and the distance between the nodes, or knuckles if you prefer, are further apart.

    This pipe also sports a brandy style bowl that is canted and had the grain been oriented slightly it would have made a fabulous Ring Grain pipe but it’s damn nice as it is. It was made by Brian Ruthenberg and the stem is dark maroon Cumberland, and I too kept it smokey with the same 23 y/o Grey Havens from Mac Baren, cheers.
    banjo

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    I got a bent brandy from Rattray's for Christmas, I have not taken any pics yet. I love it though!

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    Posted 6 months ago #
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    I was asked to do a straight-shanked brandy, straight grain. "No problem" thought I. And then went and looked at the blocks and realized that because briar grain expands radially in 2 directions, the block is the right shape for a straight-grain BENT brandy every time, and never a straight - the shank runs out the edge of the block.

    I had 1 block amongst a collection of large blocks that was shaped weird enough AND had good enough grain.

    But I couldn't make another and I have... 100 blocks in stock.

    But it is, under normal circumstances a shape that plays into briar grain very well indeed, with either a bamboo shank or a bent presentation.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    I prefer Apple shaped pipes, but a good compact brandy bowl is wonderful when done right and with weight less than 45 grams.

    Sandblasted Bent Brandy With Black Palm (A) By Peter Heeschen.

    Neal
    Posted 6 months ago #
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    I love Brandy shapes. I stopped at Boswell's last summer on a road trip and this big beautiful bent brandy called out to me from the shelves so I brought her home. Easily my most beautiful pipe. I have a Stanwell 83 which they call a bent billiard but reminds me of a brandy.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Not my pipe, but a classic 1966 Gert Holbek for PipeDan,



    Posted 6 months ago #
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    @Banjo, stellar piece!

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Some great looking pipes guys.

    I forgot I have another Brandy made by Tonni Nielsen.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    ^^^AWESOME^^^

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    @npod and Harris, those are terrific pipes! I love the dark blasts....

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    I only have a couple of them including a rusticated Castle Birr by Peterson, a bent brandy shape. Love its chubbiness.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Here’s an Il Ceppo that I like a lot, light enough to clench if I want,

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    I have only one brandy...an RdPipes bent that Ron gifted me for Christmas...absolutely love this pipe!

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Some beautiful pipes but that Ryan Alden stands out as a favorite.

    "If you resolve to give up smoking, drinking and sex, you don't actually live longer; it just seems that way."
    Posted 6 months ago #
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    The Weaver- Looks very apple-ish, so maybe it's an apple brandy? Haven't had any of that since France 1972...

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Harris, the Brian Ruthenberg reminds me of a shape by Ib Loran.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    A Danish stacked Brandy with lovely cross grain, a MR. ANDERSEN (various makers, it's a long story).

    This one is mine.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Brandy or billiard or brandy-billiard? It's a Comoy 350.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Sure looks like a fine cognac- er, brandy- to me.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Jesse Jones 1/8 bent Brandy #1 & #2.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Wow tschiraldi. The 1/8 is so graceful. A 1/4 bent with saddle bit gets me every time but wow! Those are gorgeous.

    "May my last breath be drawn through a pipe, and exhaled in a jest." Charles Lamb
    Posted 6 months ago #
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    Only one I have, a Svendborg that really captures the Danish influence on traditional shapes.

    Doc

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    This one is on its way to me now, looking forward to it . This is btw my first attempt to post pictures
    Dunhill WWll LV brandy :

    Posted 4 months ago #
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    Blimey, it worked. I feel proud as Punch

    Posted 4 months ago #
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    Glad to see this five-year-old original post revived. Some years ago, I bought not one but two Peterson bent B11's that were then sold as brandy shapes, one a Killarney ebony, and the other a Shannon, both fine smokers and still cooking. I'm intrigued that these days many/most retailers list these as volcanos. I'm not sure if they have more appeal with that name, or whether it is just a reconsideration of the shape. I still think of them as brandy shaped. One or two posts have expressed the opinion that these pipes are really ugly. They are distinctive and only appeal to some. I've boomed them up on posts from time to time, but I think I've only heard of another owner once. The pipe maker GiGi makes brandy shapes, but I've always felt his pipes were heavy for their size.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  34. jpmcwjr

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    You nailed it!

    Quite a pipe. Verging on a volcano. (Does Dunhill even use that term?)

    Posted 4 months ago #
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    This shape seems closest to a brandy snifter. Amazing, drbob.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  36. ashdigger

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    I only own one Brandy Shape. Here's my Peterson Great Explorers Shackleton.

    Ubi Ignis Est?
    Posted 4 months ago #
  37. mso489

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    Here's a link for a quick look at a B11:

    https://www.amazon.com/Peterson-Killarney-Red-B11-Fishtail/dp/B0063FMQFS

    Posted 4 months ago #
  38. orlandofurioso

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    Hi JPM,

    Thank you Sir, I finally managed.
    It almost looks like a vulcano indeed. Partly because of their agressive blasting ?
    Dunhill does not use the term vulcano, at least not my knowledge . The LV was officially named their Brandy shape. I am a sucker for Dunhill's amazing blasts from the past.

    Posted 4 months ago #

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