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    Hello, bought my first pipe today. I tried to smoke it, but smoke tasted like burned leaves, even though the smell itself was good. Also the pipe stinks like an ashtray after the session and I have no idea how to fix it.
    What am I doing wrong?

    pipe: corncob
    tobacco: eastwood original blend pipe tobacco

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    It takes some doing to pack it right. Maybe check out some youtube videos on packing a pipe. And then there's learning to smoke it right, which also takes some work. The main thing is to go real slow so the tobacco doesn't burn too fast and too hot. Just light puffs into your mouth (not lungs) with breaks in between. It's totally normal for it to go out a few times every bowl. If you're really scorching it, it won't taste like much - slowing down is the fix. Also, lay out your tobacco to dry for a while before you smoke. When it's fresh out of the tin or pouch, it doesn't burn right - it won't taste like much, and it'll scald your tongue with steam. Hope this helps! Be patient and keep at it, and you'll be getting awesome smokes before too long.

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    Thanks for the tips man
    Also, does this "burned smell" of the pipe ever go away? (I cleaned it with a pipe cleaner)

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    Yeah, they kind of stink a little, especially while you're still learning to smoke. If you're not already a ciggy smoker (i.e. used to having full ashtrays around), I imagine it smells quite strong. Unburned tobacco is the stinkiest, so make sure to clean the bowl out really well when you're finished. Pipes absorb some moisture when you smoke a bowl; once they dry out, the smell usually goes for the most part. And if you smoke a lot, you'll zap your taste buds and sense of smell enough that you won't notice, so problem solved.

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    Cobs particularly take several smokes to start tasting decent. The burnt leaves taste is probably the angled tip of the stem that inserts into the bottom of the chamber getting charred. The cob also gets some charring at first. I smoke mostly briar but have a few cobs I bought new. Some seem to take longer than others to get seasoned so they taste good. I had one that probably took 10 or 12 smokes. I had a few that probably took 4 or 5. Seems to me my cobbit pipes tasted good a lot quicker. My MM Twain seemed to take so many I almost tossed it, maybe 12. I have an Old Dominion that only took maybe 3 or 4. The stem on those do not protrude into the chamber. You might test your tobacco load with the straight sticker or a tooth pick and try to end your bowls a little above the stem a few times to see if that helps. I’ve also trimmed away excess stem from inside the bowl with a super sharp knife and that seemed to expedite things. Clean the wood part of the stem with a doubled over cleaner dipped in iso alcohol or liquor, clean the plastic stem with soapy water. It will stink less and smoke better.

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    A smoked pipe smells of ashes. If you are a wet smoker, it will smell of wet ashes. That should be obvious.

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    First cups of coffee and first tobacco pipes bowls confront us with a lot of unfamiliar smells and tastes, so may be partly or mostly unpleasant. Some of this you will learn to enjoy, and other aspects you will learn to neglect. You may or may not come to like coffee, or a tobacco pipe, but getting started is rarely a complete joy. With some, it's love at first taste and smell, but for most it's getting to know the experience and learning to like it ... if you do.

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    Has anyone heard of that tobacco? Maybe it is burnt leaves

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    Burning leaves...burning leaves...why ever would burning leaves smell like burning leaves? Maybe because they're burning leaves?

    I have some disappointing news for you. Tobacco is made from leaves. When you set fire to it, those leaves are burning and are apt to taste like burning leaves. The flavor of those burning leaves may vary some depending upon which combination of leaf is burning and what flavorings have been added to it. It's not uncommon for the scent of the burning leaves to be better than the taste, especially at the beginning of pipe smoking.

    Some things that you can do to improve the flavors are to dry your tobacco until it's almost crispy crumbly dry, as the excess moisture masks the flavors of the burning tobacco, pack lightly at first and experiment with the pack until you find something that works for you. The draw on a pipe should feel open when packed and never tight. Last, smoke slowly. You puff to get the tobacco lit at the beginning, and then gently sip. When the tobacco is barely smouldering, that's when the "burning leaves" flavor really dissipates, and the flavors that you're tasting become more like the flavors that you're smelling. It takes practice.

    About that ashtray smell. More disappointing news. There are ashes from the burning leaves deposited around the sides of the chamber. Ashes smell. They never not smell. You can use a wadded piece of paper toweling or some pipe cleaners to wipe the walls of the chamber after dumping out the ash, but some smell will always be there. You could spray the pipe with Fabreze to kill off the smell, but chances are that it would fail to get rid of the smell and the chemical remnants would probably kill you the next time you burned some more leaves. So it's probably not a good idea to spray the pipe with Fabreze. Best to clean your pipe with pipe cleaners, paper toweling, and warm water for the plastic stem, and to just embrace the remaining stink.

    You can look at videos on YouTube. Just do so with some skepticism. There are a few excellent videos. The vast majority are utter crap. It's YouTube. Any moron can put up a video, and most of them do.

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    Burning leaves...burning leaves...why ever would burning leaves smell like burning leaves? Maybe because they're burning leaves?

    Sable, I was having a very hard time resisting saying exactly this.

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    I knew I was nicer than you guys, but I just figure it was because I'm nicer than you guys.

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    I actually really enjoy the smell of a used pipe, to me it smells like the last glorious bowl of tobacco that had been smoked in it. My Lat pipe smells like lat, my aromatic pipe smells like cherry(or whatever other flavor I had in there) and my vaper/vapbur pipe smells like spicy grass/hay. Usually after a day or two of rest the smell from a used pipe will fade, but it will always smell like you burned tobacco in it. As for tasting like burnt leaves, I've never really would have described tobacco tasting or smelling like burned leaves, as that describes something that smells astringent and "burnt" to me, but technically tobacco is a leaf so it is an accurate description... As to try and troubleshoot your problem, as others have mentioned you are more than likely smoking too hot and too fast, so try and slow down. Everyone can learn how to slow down more. Also, you probably need a few more smokes to break in the pipe, you could be tasting some of the "newness" of the pipe. Also, it could be the tobacco, I personally have never herd of that tobacco before. I would suggest looking around the forms to see what people highly recommend and try those blends.

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    Smoking is an acquired taste--just like beer or whiskey. The first time you try them you are likely to only taste certain really strong and not necessarily pleasant flavors. But once your palate adjusts to those flavors, they don't dominate the experience, and entirely different flavors come through. So it is pretty natural for a first pipe to taste really smokey and ashy. Once you get used to the new flavors, it won't. It's almost like letting your eyes adjust when you come inside on a really bright day. It just takes time to adjust. I'd recommend focusing on the sidestream (maybe even the retrohale) until then.

    There could be a million other things going on too that keep it from tasting good. Some tobaccos just do have a flat, cigarette flavor. And if you are packing wrong, or smoking with the wrong moisture, or puffing too fast, this could also kill the flavor. And (as others note) a cob will take a few smokes to break in. But you can't be sure that this is the problem until you get used to the taste of smoke.

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    Alright, I understand most of it now. Just expected tobacco should taste the way it smells. Mine smells pretty pleasant, but tobacco smoke itself tastes like a forest fire
    I guess it's just a matter of getting used to it

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    Alright, I understand most of it now. Just expected tobacco should taste the way it smells. Mine smells pretty pleasant, but tobacco smoke itself tastes like a forest fire
    I guess it's just a matter of getting used to it

    You've just begun pipe smoking and there's a learning curve. May of us experienced much the same thing when we first started out. We smoked wet tobacco way too fast, puffing like freight trains to keep the bowl from going out. That will guarantee that you taste nothing but a forest fire, at least until your tongue boils.

    There is some technique to getting the best flavors out of the blends that you smoke, including smoking very slowly and avoiding super heating the tobacco. Getting the moisture level right also increases the flavors. And since you have more flavor receptors in your schnoz than you have in your mouth, letting the smoke slowly drift out through your nose also increases the likelihood that what you smell, and what you taste will be closer.

    But not all blends taste like they smell. Some do, some don't. Sometimes they taste better, more complex, than the room note. Getting the most flavor takes some practice. Keep smoking, keep asking questions. Keep experimenting. Eventually it will start to click.

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    I just had a cup of tea, it tasted like boiled leaves!

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    And sometimes the worse it smells, the better the smoke! But the emphasis is on sometimes. I find there's little correlation between "room note" and taste of smoke. And I am not a fan of breaking in corncob pipes.

    It will get better!

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    You'll get it in time. It just takes practice. Everything will fall into place.

    I like drinking something sweet when I'm smoking a pipe. It makes that tobacco taste so much better to me.

    Try some sweet tea or maybe a diet cola or a cup of coffee.

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    Mmmmmmm... burning leaves. Love that smell.

    Dry your tobacco down to where it’s almost crumbly.
    When you light the pipe, try to keep the flame just above the tobacco. Don’t torch it.
    Draw slowly. Sip. You want to keep the combustion temp low.
    Try different tobacco blends. Avoid goopy, flavored blends.
    Continue to come back here for help and advice.

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    Philo, you're jes' messeded up, you know that, right? }:)

    OP, what John (jpm) & others've said is truer than you might think. Some of the best tasting stuff will have a room note that's not the most pleasant, & vice versa. Every blend is different. Keep your pipes clean & dry using cleaners; if not allowed to dry they can get rancid & gurgly on you.

    Lastly as woods said, keep your puffing slow. Slower than that. Even slower. The faster you puff the more moisture is going to condense & then turn to steam. That's where tongue burn will come from, so the more you can avoid it, the better.

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    “I taste burning”.

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    "eastwood original blend pipe tobacco"

    I'm curious about the blend. I've never heard of it. Is it a house blend from a local store? Can't seem to find anything on it searching the webs.

    "The thinking man always smokes a Peterson." -Peterson of Dublin
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    This is a Clint Eastwood blend. Also sold as "Get Off My Lawn", it is blend of Virginia, Latakia, Orientals and Grass Clippings.

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    I'm curious about the blend. I've never heard of it. Is it a house blend from a local store? Can't seem to find anything on it searching the webs.

    It appears to be a Russian blend, only available over there.

    Regardless, yes, it will take time for the tobacco to taste as the tin note. It's doable, but it takes some time.

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    I usually like to say it takes two or three weeks for your tastebuds to acclimatize to tasting smoke (similar to tasting spicy food), but in this case with such an unknown blend maybe it would be best to recommend getting another blend for variety.
    In general it will help to have several types of tobacco so that you’re not just tasting the same thing every time. A good rotation would just be going between Latakia and Virginia blends.

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    It appears to be a Russian blend

    I looked it up in Russian because I've only heard of one operating pipe-tobacco producer in Russia (Pogarskaya). Looks like Eastwood is marketed in Russia as pipe tobacco, but produced as RYO by Twist N.V. in Belgium. https://twist-tobacco.be/en/eastwood# Maybe that's where all the Semois goes? It goes for 5 bucks/pouch in Moscow (vs. 15 for a tin of Peterson), and might be the only game in town in some other cities. Maybe OP can tell us more? Most guys I know over there get all their pipe tobacco from forum and pipe club buddies.

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    The one piece of advice I will give you is to make sure you smoke different varieties of tobacco. It may be that pipe smoking is not to your taste, or it might just be that the particular tobacco you are smoking is not to your particular taste. I'd be bummed if you ended up missing out on a hobby you may have enjoyed because you got a tobacco blend that didn't work for you. Check out some threads and articles on great tobaccos for beginners, and see if you can find some where you're at (or can order online).

    Also, check out tobaccoreviews.com You can learn about different tobaccos, and the thoughts of more experienced pipe smokers may help you in terms of figuring out the flavors you might encounter. It's a great resource.

    Good luck!

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    alexashe, give this a try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXZYxWwReOc

    Also, I do something that a member here told me is called "the French method", which is to intentionally smell the smoke after I exhale it from my mouth.

    In short, tobacco tastes like burnt leaves because that is what it is. The key to enjoying it is all in the smell IMO.

    As for the burnt ashtray smell of the pipe. I clean my pipes after every smoke, and I use a little bit of rubbing alcohol. Then I let them dry out for at least a day. (You don't want to taste the rubbing alcohol either.) It will still smell burnt, but I find myself liking the burnt smell of a (cleaned) used pipe.

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    the French method

    French inhaling is more of a cigarette thing.

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